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Captain Compassion
2007-05-07 06:05:56 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-News
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35aecd4.html

Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.

"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition — who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."

Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.

These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.

Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."

Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."

His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.

"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."

In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.

"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.

This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.

Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.

Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.

On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
American Jesus
2007-05-07 07:32:33 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
Captain Compassion
2007-05-07 14:42:15 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.

What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
American Jesus
2007-05-07 22:49:30 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. The American Jesus cannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Captain Compassion
2007-05-08 03:13:06 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. The American Jesus cannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.

Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.

What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
American Jesus
2007-05-08 03:21:15 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. The American Jesus cannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Captain Compassion
2007-05-08 04:23:53 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. The American Jesus cannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.

"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
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2007-05-08 05:57:20 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Post by Captain Compassion
"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
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2007-05-08 15:48:22 UTC
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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Post by Captain Compassion
"Madmen reason rightly from the wrong premisis" -- Locke
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
You should see An Inconvenient Truth if you want extraordinary
evidence. What's happening to this planet is right in front of your
nose and you are denying it. Amazing. Thank goodness most people
around the US and the world aren't like you. Ostrich.
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
You should see An Inconvenient Truth if you want extraordinary
evidence. What's happening to this planet is right in front of your
nose and you are denying it. Amazing. Thank goodness most people
around the US and the world aren't like you. Ostrich.
According to climate records the earth has warmed .6C in the last 100
years. Hardly apocalyptic and well within what can be expected due to
natural observed climate cycles. I viewed Al Gore's movie. It was hype
based on anecdotal evidence that lead to conclusions that not even the
IPCC would endorse. It is a horror story of what *may* happen right
out of the Apocalypse of St. John the Divine.

You do realize don't you that Gore is a Jesus Freak?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
You should see An Inconvenient Truth if you want extraordinary
evidence. What's happening to this planet is right in front of your
nose and you are denying it. Amazing. Thank goodness most people
around the US and the world aren't like you. Ostrich.
According to climate records the earth has warmed .6C in the last 100
years. Hardly apocalyptic and well within what can be expected due to
natural observed climate cycles. I viewed Al Gore's movie. It was hype
based on anecdotal evidence that lead to conclusions that not even the
IPCC would endorse. It is a horror story of what *may* happen right
out of the Apocalypse of St. John the Divine.
You do realize don't you that Gore is a Jesus Freak?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
Hmm. I've heard that some in government on both sides are Jesus
freaks and they want the end of the world to come so they can cause
the 2nd Coming, is that what you're getting at? If that's it, why
would Gore then be trying to stop that?
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
You should see An Inconvenient Truth if you want extraordinary
evidence. What's happening to this planet is right in front of your
nose and you are denying it. Amazing. Thank goodness most people
around the US and the world aren't like you. Ostrich.
According to climate records the earth has warmed .6C in the last 100
years. Hardly apocalyptic and well within what can be expected due to
natural observed climate cycles. I viewed Al Gore's movie. It was hype
based on anecdotal evidence that lead to conclusions that not even the
IPCC would endorse. It is a horror story of what *may* happen right
out of the Apocalypse of St. John the Divine.
You do realize don't you that Gore is a Jesus Freak?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
Hmm. I've heard that some in government on both sides are Jesus
freaks and they want the end of the world to come so they can cause
the 2nd Coming, is that what you're getting at? If that's it, why
would Gore then be trying to stop that?
I suspect that Rev. Al feels that he has a God given moral mandate to
right the sins of the world. This is common among true believers.

Generally people with personal belief systems that some how elevate
them above their fellow man and endow them with some sort of moral or
ethical power to impose their brand of truth over others are
dangerous. This could include Christians, Moslems, Socialists or
global warming cultists. -- Captain Compassion
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
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Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
You should see An Inconvenient Truth if you want extraordinary
evidence. What's happening to this planet is right in front of your
nose and you are denying it. Amazing. Thank goodness most people
around the US and the world aren't like you. Ostrich.
According to climate records the earth has warmed .6C in the last 100
years. Hardly apocalyptic and well within what can be expected due to
natural observed climate cycles. I viewed Al Gore's movie. It was hype
based on anecdotal evidence that lead to conclusions that not even the
IPCC would endorse. It is a horror story of what *may* happen right
out of the Apocalypse of St. John the Divine.
You do realize don't you that Gore is a Jesus Freak?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
Hmm. I've heard that some in government on both sides are Jesus
freaks and they want the end of the world to come so they can cause
the 2nd Coming, is that what you're getting at? If that's it, why
would Gore then be trying to stop that?
I suspect that Rev. Al feels that he has a God given moral mandate to
right the sins of the world. This is common among true believers.
Generally people with personal belief systems that some how elevate
them above their fellow man and endow them with some sort of moral or
ethical power to impose their brand of truth over others are
dangerous. This could include Christians, Moslems, Socialists or
global warming cultists. -- Captain Compassion
You posted an article the other day about the "Holocene Mass
Extinction". Do you think this is happening without any help from
humanity? If we are altering our own environment to the extent that
ecosystems are being damaged then how can we afford to keep our heads
in the sand about climate change? We have evidence. I don't think Al
Gore pointing that out is our problem. People complain about how much
electricity Gore uses. If a man said that murder is bad, and then
murders another, that doesn't change the fact that murder is bad. We
have seen mountains of evidence that climate change is right under our
noses, and that Man has something to do with it. Is it smarter to
dismiss that or use caution and act like everything is fine and
dandy? Based on the fact that you posted an article about mass
extinction, you already know things are not fine and dandy.
If this problem cannot be addressed then we need to find a way to
adapt to it. But before we do that we have to admit there is a
problem and you seem unwilling to do so regarding climate change. I
know I won't change your mind but it's been fun and illuminating
talking to you. I reckon you're a smart guy but I think you're
gambling.
Post by Captain Compassion
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
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Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-Newshttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35...
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition - who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
What are your credentials compared to Gore's?
I suspect that the Captain has a lot more formal schooling in the
Sciences than Gore but that's not the point. The Captain is not asking
anyone to believe anything. The Captain makes no claims to morality,.
The Captain is not asking anyone to use one sheet of toilet paper or
drive less with smaller cars. The Captain does not want you to pay
more taxes or buy carbon offsets. The Captain does not use fear, guilt
or shame to sell his product. The Captain does not ask that you change
your life to indulge his fantasies.
What again are Gore's credentials that allow him to do this?
I don't think it was Gore who said we should use only one sheet of
toilet paper. Please don't answer my question with a question. You
almost answered it, but then backed off. You have also said you have
more scientific credentials than Gore but failed to illustrate. You
then asked what Gore's credentials are. If you don't know, then how
can you determine that yours are greater?
This conversation will not procede until you back up your words and
prove you have more credentials than Gore on the issue of climate
change. TheAmerican Jesuscannot take the Cap'n Crunch seriously
until so.
Al Gore: Bachelor of Arts degree in government. Dropped out of
divinity and law schools.
Because we all know that such schools teach about the environment.
Post by Captain Compassion
Captain Compassion: BA in Psychology. MS in Social Psychology with
concentrations in experimental psychology and statistics.
I don't see anything about environmental science listed above. But,
there is also experience to be taken into account. Perhaps you have
more experience than Gore.
I'm not about to send you my transcripts. Experience in what? Power
Point presentations?
Post by American Jesus
Post by Captain Compassion
What credentials are necessary for being an ill informed selfrightious
goon such as Gore?
Ill-informed according to what % of the scientific community? You mean
ill-informed like the WMD in Iraq? Is that what you mean?
Gore basis his claims of Anthropocentric Global Warming on the
assumption that minor increases in atmospheric CO2 will lead to
catastrophic run away warming. There is no evidence of this connection
anywhere in climatic history.
That's because humans haven't polluted like this before, in history.
As for your transcripts, just admit that you can't match Gore. If you
could, you would have given details long ago. Just admit that you
can't. You think you're gonna convince me by saying you know more
than Gore but you have no intention of providing proof? That's pretty
stupid, man. The scientific community says Gore is correct, but here
you are saying he's not, and you can't back it up nor can you provide
superior credentials. Like I said, that's pretty stupid. Just who
exactly do you think you're convincing? Seriously, I'd like to know.
Why would I need proof when I'm not trying to prove anything? It is up
to those who claim unique and extraordinary circumstances to be able
to back up their claims. In science Occam's Razor rules the roost and
the null hypothesis is always assumed.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
You should see An Inconvenient Truth if you want extraordinary
evidence. What's happening to this planet is right in front of your
nose and you are denying it. Amazing. Thank goodness most people
around the US and the world aren't like you. Ostrich.
According to climate records the earth has warmed .6C in the last 100
years. Hardly apocalyptic and well within what can be expected due to
natural observed climate cycles. I viewed Al Gore's movie. It was hype
based on anecdotal evidence that lead to conclusions that not even the
IPCC would endorse. It is a horror story of what *may* happen right
out of the Apocalypse of St. John the Divine.
You do realize don't you that Gore is a Jesus Freak?
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
Hmm. I've heard that some in government on both sides are Jesus
freaks and they want the end of the world to come so they can cause
the 2nd Coming, is that what you're getting at? If that's it, why
would Gore then be trying to stop that?
I suspect that Rev. Al feels that he has a God given moral mandate to
right the sins of the world. This is common among true believers.
Generally people with personal belief systems that some how elevate
them above their fellow man and endow them with some sort of moral or
ethical power to impose their brand of truth over others are
dangerous. This could include Christians, Moslems, Socialists or
global warming cultists. -- Captain Compassion
You posted an article the other day about the "Holocene Mass
Extinction". Do you think this is happening without any help from
humanity? If we are altering our own environment to the extent that
ecosystems are being damaged then how can we afford to keep our heads
in the sand about climate change? We have evidence. I don't think Al
Gore pointing that out is our problem. People complain about how much
electricity Gore uses. If a man said that murder is bad, and then
murders another, that doesn't change the fact that murder is bad. We
have seen mountains of evidence that climate change is right under our
noses, and that Man has something to do with it. Is it smarter to
dismiss that or use caution and act like everything is fine and
dandy? Based on the fact that you posted an article about mass
extinction, you already know things are not fine and dandy.
If this problem cannot be addressed then we need to find a way to
adapt to it. But before we do that we have to admit there is a
problem and you seem unwilling to do so regarding climate change. I
know I won't change your mind but it's been fun and illuminating
talking to you. I reckon you're a smart guy but I think you're
gambling.
Again the Captain will state the obvious fact that climate is always
changing with or without the help of mankind. Has man been responsible
for the extinction of species? Yes. I submit to you that man in a more
"natural" state towards the end of the Pleistocene killed much of the
mega fauna of the world. But this seems to be the nature of man. Any
attempt to change will be difficult.

I think that anybody whose idea about how to fix the world starts off
by, "First, we`re going to change human nature," is doomed. -- Martin
Eberhard


The Captain recognizes many ecological problems however catastrophic
anthropocentric global warming just isn't one of them. The Captain
rejects the precautionary principle in favor of the proactionary
principle.

People’s freedom to innovate technologically is highly valuable, even
critical, to humanity. This implies several imperatives when
restrictive measures are proposed: Assess risks and opportunities
according to available science, not popular perception. Account for
both the costs of the restrictions themselves, and those of
opportunities foregone. Favor measures that are proportionate to the
probability and magnitude of impacts, and that have a high expectation
value. Protect people’s freedom to experiment, innovate, and progress.
-- Proactionary Principle Max More

Adapt or die.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.

Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
***@NOSPAMcharter.net
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2007-05-29 21:40:59 UTC
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Post by Captain Compassion
Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming
Web Posted: 05/05/2007 11:12 PM CDT
Anton Caputo
Express-News
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35aecd4.html
Playing equal parts visionary, cheerleader and comedian, Al Gore
brought his message of how to fight global warming to a capacity crowd
of receptive architects Saturday in San Antonio.
The former vice president referred continually to a "new way of
thinking" that is emerging in the country and offered hope in the
battle to control the effects global warming will have on the planet.
I wonder if we'll need a "new language" like the one Hillary
thought we would need to express the new ideas...
I watched an Earth Day event where they had John Denver speak
years ago. The most often repeated message was that "saving the Earth"
is something "we all" have to be involved in. Yep, not the industrial
interests, but individuals like you and me. Anyway, it ended up
sounding like the worst predictions of what the closet communists are
really all about, as articulated by various members of the John Birch
Society, etc (like the guy who said the Sierra Club is "a satanic
cult"). No kidding, I'm pro-environment, but those f**king loonies
really made some of their detractors sound reasonable.
Anyway, it's years later, and a lot could have already been
done, but here they are pushing the message that it's a huge crisis
(which I'm sure it is), and the way to deal with it is to give up
independant transportation, etc. Automobiles are responsible for
roughly 10% to 11% of air pollution, and industry spews out the rest.
Isn't it time someone told these morons that SUV drivers are not
unpatriotic, nasty, etc?
Post by Captain Compassion
"It's in part a spiritual crisis," Gore told the crowd in the
Convention Center at the American Institute of Architects national
convention. "It's a crisis of our own self-definition — who we are.
Are we creatures destined to destroy our own species? Clearly not."
Global warming is the heating of the Earth caused in large part by
man-made emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. Most
scientists agree such warming and the changing climate that comes with
it will likely cause a number of problems and crises this century,
particularly in developing countries that have few resources to combat
the effects.
These looming problems involve flooding and severe coastal erosion
from rising seas and increasingly severe storms, more common and
prolonged drought, and changes in the growing seasons and migration
patterns of many wild species.
Gore told the architects they are in a unique position to help solve
the problems by continuing to push building standards and methods that
conserve energy and water. The message was in line with the focus of
this year's AIA conference, titled "Growing Beyond Green."
Gore, seen by some as a polarizing political figure, has long
championed environmental issues. In 1992, he wrote the best-selling
book "Earth in the Balance: Ecology and the Human Spirit," and he won
an Academy Award this year for his film "An Inconvenient Truth."
His speech was often interrupted by thunderous applause and explosive
laughter from the several thousand architects who packed the
Convention Center's ballroom.
"I used to be the next president of the United States," Gore
deadpanned to the laughing crowd as he introduced himself. "I don't
find that funny. Put yourself in my position. I flew in Air Force Two
for eight years. Now I have to take off my shoes to get on an
airplane."
In between jokes, Gore called for a change in thinking about climate
issues and the pollution that causes global warming. He was especially
critical of the business community's current focus on quarterly
profits at the expense of sustainable business practices.
"That's functionally insane, but that is the dominant reality in the
world today," Gore said.
This struck a chord with the architects at Saturday's event because
many environmentally friendly building practices cost more upfront,
which makes them a harder sell, but end up costing much less over the
lifetime of a building.
Gore's speech came on the heels of a report issued by the United
Nations' International Panel on Climate Change that concluded cutting
greenhouse gas emissions enough to eliminate the worst impacts of
climate change is affordable. The international group put the cost at
0.12 percent of economic growth each year.Among the solutions Gore
touted Saturday were a cap-and-trade system for carbon dioxide. This
is the method of controlling greenhouse gases pushed by the
international Kyoto Protocol, an international effort to fight global
warming that the United Sates chose not to join in 2001.
Gore also called for a business pollution tax that would be used to
offset or eliminate employment and payroll taxes and for the creation
of a federal mortgage institution that would help offset the cost of
building environmentally friendly homes.
On the request of Gore's media handlers, Saturday's event was closed
to the media. Because of the importance of the issue and Gore's
status, the San Antonio Express-News chose to cover it anyway.
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