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MAGA vs. MAGA Deathmatch
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b***@panix.com
2024-12-29 14:54:43 UTC
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| Like many observers, I expected severe buyers' regret
| fairly early in the second Trump administration. After all,
| many Americans who voted for Trump did so because they
| believed he would bring down grocery prices. He was never
| going to be able to deliver on that promise and stopped
| talking about the subject as soon as the election was over;
| sooner or later, voters were going to notice.
|
| I did not, however, expect a MAGA civil war weeks before
| Trump had even taken office. But in retrospect I should
| have seen it coming.
| ...
<https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/maga-is-already-eating-its-own-pass>

--bks
186282@ud0s4.net
2024-12-30 07:19:43 UTC
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| Like many observers, I expected severe buyers' regret
| fairly early in the second Trump administration. After all,
| many Americans who voted for Trump did so because they
| believed he would bring down grocery prices. He was never
| going to be able to deliver on that promise and stopped
| talking about the subject as soon as the election was over;
| sooner or later, voters were going to notice.
|
| I did not, however, expect a MAGA civil war weeks before
| Trump had even taken office. But in retrospect I should
| have seen it coming.
| ...
<https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/maga-is-already-eating-its-own-pass>
This is all "expected". Pols, and esp entire branches of
govt, have to maintain (or create the illusion of) their
own 'autonomy'. It's a matter of pride, it's a matter
of politics.

Trump WILL have to make deals with the House/Senate, no
question. Fortunately he's GOOD a deals - he will get
90% of what he wants, while the reps can crow about
not being his loyal minions/slaves/lapdogs.

And this is how it works.
Siri Cruise
2024-12-30 08:37:19 UTC
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  question. Fortunately he's GOOD a deals - he will get
Nope.
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Bradley K. Sherman
2024-12-30 12:56:32 UTC
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| It is now fair to ask the question: Is Elon Musk a national
| security risk?
|
| According to numerous interviews and remarks, Mr. Musk's
| Department of Government Efficiency co-leader, Vivek
| Ramaswamy, once appeared to believe he was. In May 2023,
| Mr. Ramaswamy went so far as to publicly state, "I have no
| reason to think Elon won't jump like a circus monkey when
| Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need," a reference to
| China's leader. In a separate X post targeting Mr. Musk, he
| wrote, "the U.S. needs leaders who aren't in China's
| pocket."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/opinion/elon-musk-china-classified-secrets-national-security-russia-doge.html>

--bks
Mitchell Holman
2024-12-30 13:42:36 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| It is now fair to ask the question: Is Elon Musk a national
| security risk?
|
| According to numerous interviews and remarks, Mr. Musk's
| Department of Government Efficiency co-leader, Vivek
| Ramaswamy, once appeared to believe he was. In May 2023,
| Mr. Ramaswamy went so far as to publicly state, "I have no
| reason to think Elon won't jump like a circus monkey when
| Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need," a reference to
| China's leader. In a separate X post targeting Mr. Musk, he
| wrote, "the U.S. needs leaders who aren't in China's
| pocket."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/opinion/elon-musk-china-classified-
secrets-national-security-russia-doge.html>
--bks
Musk has only one priority,
making money. If he can get inside
the Trump administration to line
his own pockets he will. If he can
cozy up to Xi or Putin or Saudi
monarchs to make money he will.

Does anyone actually think he
has any loyalty to America?
NoBody
2024-12-31 12:21:43 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| It is now fair to ask the question: Is Elon Musk a national
| security risk?
|
| According to numerous interviews and remarks, Mr. Musk's
| Department of Government Efficiency co-leader, Vivek
| Ramaswamy, once appeared to believe he was. In May 2023,
| Mr. Ramaswamy went so far as to publicly state, "I have no
| reason to think Elon won't jump like a circus monkey when
| Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need," a reference to
| China's leader. In a separate X post targeting Mr. Musk, he
| wrote, "the U.S. needs leaders who aren't in China's
| pocket."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/opinion/elon-musk-china-classified-secrets-national-security-russia-doge.html>
--bks
Laughter.

Do keep it up. It helped Trump win and will help him to continue
doing so.

Congrats on getting Trump elected!
super70s
2024-12-31 14:03:37 UTC
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Post by NoBody
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| It is now fair to ask the question: Is Elon Musk a national
| security risk?
|
| According to numerous interviews and remarks, Mr. Musk's
| Department of Government Efficiency co-leader, Vivek
| Ramaswamy, once appeared to believe he was. In May 2023,
| Mr. Ramaswamy went so far as to publicly state, "I have no
| reason to think Elon won't jump like a circus monkey when
| Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need," a reference to
| China's leader. In a separate X post targeting Mr. Musk, he
| wrote, "the U.S. needs leaders who aren't in China's
| pocket."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/opinion/elon-musk-china-classified-secrets-national-security-russia-doge.html>
--bks
Laughter.
Do keep it up. It helped Trump win and will help him to continue
doing so.
Congrats on getting Trump elected!
An intra-Republican war over immigrant visas helped get Trump elected?

You need to come with some new routines.
NoBody
2025-01-01 16:37:47 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| It is now fair to ask the question: Is Elon Musk a national
| security risk?
|
| According to numerous interviews and remarks, Mr. Musk's
| Department of Government Efficiency co-leader, Vivek
| Ramaswamy, once appeared to believe he was. In May 2023,
| Mr. Ramaswamy went so far as to publicly state, "I have no
| reason to think Elon won't jump like a circus monkey when
| Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need," a reference to
| China's leader. In a separate X post targeting Mr. Musk, he
| wrote, "the U.S. needs leaders who aren't in China's
| pocket."
| ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/opinion/elon-musk-china-classified-secrets-national-security-russia-doge.html>
--bks
Laughter.
Do keep it up. It helped Trump win and will help him to continue
doing so.
Congrats on getting Trump elected!
And Bradley has run away.
Bradley K. Sherman
2025-01-03 14:37:10 UTC
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| Musk says 'hateful unrepentant racists' must be removed
| from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
| ...
<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-hateful-racists-removed-republican-party-b2670826.html>

--bks
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-03 18:46:51 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| Musk says 'hateful unrepentant racists' must be removed
| from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
| ...
<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-hat
eful-racists-removed-republican-party-b2670826.html>
--bks
Is Musk even a member of the
Republican Party? Texas is an open
primary state so party membership
is not required to vote.
NoBody
2025-01-04 14:45:55 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| Musk says 'hateful unrepentant racists' must be removed
| from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
| ...
<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-hateful-racists-removed-republican-party-b2670826.html>
--bks
So...you are on the same side with Musk.

Laughter...

Nice job of the Independent creating an entire story out of their own
opinion though.
NoBody
2025-01-05 15:06:18 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
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| Musk says 'hateful unrepentant racists' must be removed
| from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
| ...
<https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-hateful-racists-removed-republican-party-b2670826.html>
--bks
So...you are on the same side with Musk.
Laughter...
Nice job of the Independent creating an entire story out of their own
opinion though.
And Bradley has vanished.
Bradley K. Sherman
2025-01-12 02:18:38 UTC
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| Musk says 'hateful unrepentant racists' must be removed
| from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
|
| Former Breitbart News executive chairman Steve Bannon has
| declared war on Elon Musk, vowing to have the tech
| billionaire kicked out of the White House by the time
| Donald Trump is inaugurated.
|
| "I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration
| Day," Bannon told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera
| this week. "He will not have a blue pass to the White
| House, he will not have full access to the White House, he
| will be like any other person."
| ...
<https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/11/steve-bannon-i-will-do-anything-keep-elon-musk-out-white-house/>

--bks
Governor Swill
2025-01-13 20:18:57 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
| Musk says 'hateful unrepentant racists' must be removed
| from Republican Party as visa feud deepens
|
| Former Breitbart News executive chairman Steve Bannon has
| declared war on Elon Musk, vowing to have the tech
| billionaire kicked out of the White House by the time
| Donald Trump is inaugurated.
|
| "I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration
| Day," Bannon told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera
| this week. "He will not have a blue pass to the White
| House, he will not have full access to the White House, he
| will be like any other person."
| ...
<https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/11/steve-bannon-i-will-do-anything-keep-elon-musk-out-white-house/>
--bks
LOL!
Bradley K. Sherman
2025-01-14 12:07:23 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
| "I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration
| Day," Bannon told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera
| this week. "He will not have a blue pass to the White
| House, he will not have full access to the White House, he
| will be like any other person."
|
| A coalition of MAGA die-hards, tech bros and blue-collar
| workers were key to Donald Trump's November victory.
|
| Now, some of them are already at each other's throats.
|
| Free traders and protectionists are at odds over Trump's
| promise to enact "universal" tariffs. Immigration
| hard-liners are butting heads with tech companies that
| support legal immigration. And isolationists are grappling
| with the president-elect's apparently increasingly
| expansionist global agenda.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/14/trump-republicans-bannon-musk-00197996>

--bks
NoBody
2025-01-15 12:09:20 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
| "I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration
| Day," Bannon told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera
| this week. "He will not have a blue pass to the White
| House, he will not have full access to the White House, he
| will be like any other person."
|
| A coalition of MAGA die-hards, tech bros and blue-collar
| workers were key to Donald Trump's November victory.
|
| Now, some of them are already at each other's throats.
|
| Free traders and protectionists are at odds over Trump's
| promise to enact "universal" tariffs. Immigration
| hard-liners are butting heads with tech companies that
| support legal immigration. And isolationists are grappling
| with the president-elect's apparently increasingly
| expansionist global agenda.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/14/trump-republicans-bannon-musk-00197996>
--bks
And Bradley keeps on pointing silly nonsense from silly nonsense
sources.

Keep it up. It's the reason why we won.
Snit
2025-01-15 15:08:23 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
| "I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration
| Day," Bannon told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera
| this week. "He will not have a blue pass to the White
| House, he will not have full access to the White House, he
| will be like any other person."
|
| A coalition of MAGA die-hards, tech bros and blue-collar
| workers were key to Donald Trump's November victory.
|
| Now, some of them are already at each other's throats.
|
| Free traders and protectionists are at odds over Trump's
| promise to enact "universal" tariffs. Immigration
| hard-liners are butting heads with tech companies that
| support legal immigration. And isolationists are grappling
| with the president-elect's apparently increasingly
| expansionist global agenda.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/14/trump-republicans-bannon-musk-00197996>
--bks
And Bradley keeps on pointing silly nonsense from silly nonsense
sources.
What's "silly" about pointing out that Trumpswabs are at one anothers' throats?
NoBody
2025-01-16 12:03:15 UTC
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Post by Bradley K. Sherman
| "I will have Elon Musk run out of here by Inauguration
| Day," Bannon told the Italian daily Corriere della Sera
| this week. "He will not have a blue pass to the White
| House, he will not have full access to the White House, he
| will be like any other person."
|
| A coalition of MAGA die-hards, tech bros and blue-collar
| workers were key to Donald Trump's November victory.
|
| Now, some of them are already at each other's throats.
|
| Free traders and protectionists are at odds over Trump's
| promise to enact "universal" tariffs. Immigration
| hard-liners are butting heads with tech companies that
| support legal immigration. And isolationists are grappling
| with the president-elect's apparently increasingly
| expansionist global agenda.
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/14/trump-republicans-bannon-musk-00197996>
--bks
And Bradley keeps on pointing silly nonsense from silly nonsense
sources.
Keep it up. It's the reason why we won.
And Bradley has run away.

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