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60 Minutes II: Bush Faces Pressure over Drugs and Missed Guard Duty
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Gandalf Grey
2004-09-09 16:46:15 UTC
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=559273

Bush faces pressure over drugs and draft
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
08 September 2004


After weeks in which John Kerry's military record has been picked to pieces,
President George Bush now faces a double blast of scrutiny over his own
past, raising new questions over his avoidance of the Vietnam draft and his
alleged use of drugs.

The first salvo is due to be fired on CBS tonight, when Ben Barnes, a
Democrat and the lieutenant governor of Texas in 1968, will explain his role
in securing for the 22-year-old Yale graduate Bush a coveted place in the
state's Air National Guard - a unit so full of the sons of Texas's rich and
powerful that it was known as the "Champagne Unit".

The saga of the future President's failure to go to Vietnam has inevitably
returned to the headlines here as counterpoint to the controversy over his
opponent's war record, amid accusations by a group of veterans that Mr Kerry
has lied over his service in Vietnam, for which he received five
decorations.

In recent months Mr Barnes has said he feels "very ashamed" about helping Mr
Bush and the sons of other prominent Texans, and is said to have told
friends that he did it to "collect chits" from powerful families. In the
interview he is expected to expand on these comments.

In a predictably scathing reaction, the Bush campaign - long prepared for a
counterattack on the Vietnam issue after the furore over the ads about Mr
Kerry - has dismissed Mr Barnes as a "partisan Democrat", peddling a rehash
of old allegations against the President. Last week George Bush Snr, the
former president, described charges that he pulled strings for his son as
"total lies". Mr Barnes himself has acknowledged he received no direct
approach from the Bush family to have George W admitted in the Texas
National Guard - a virtual guarantee that he would not be sent to Vietnam.

More trouble may be heading Mr Bush's way with the publication next week of
The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, by the controversial
muckraking biographer Kitty Kelley, which purports to give more details of
the President's past misbehaviour, including the allegation he used cocaine
at Camp David during his father's Presidency between 1989 and 1993.

Rumours of youthful drug taking by Mr Bush have often surfaced. Though he
has admitted to being an alcoholic until he gave up drinking completely in
1986, he has sidestepped the cocaine stories. Questioned on the issue during
the 2000 campaign, he acknowledged merely that he had made "some mistakes"
and that he had learned from those mistakes.

The latest book by Ms Kelley, said to be the fruit of four years' research,
follows previous unflattering studies of Nancy Reagan, Frank Sinatra and the
British Royal family.

Using the same tactic as against Mr Barnes, the White House commented that
The Family appeared to be filled "with the same trash discredited years
ago".

The most sensational allegation in the book is that the Presidential son
used cocaine at Camp David. The source is reportedly Sharon Bush, his former
sister-in-law, who was involved in a messy divorce in 2003 from the
President's younger brother Neil after 22 years of marriage.

Ms Kelley says that the Bush family used their power and wealth to cover up
scandals.

She alleges that George W Bush began to drink at high school, and continued
to do so at Yale.

She quotes one former student as saying, "Poor Georgie, he couldn't relate
to women unless he was loaded."

Perhaps the book's most improbable claim is that Laura Bush, now the model
of primness and propriety as First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana
during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas.
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long as I'm the dictator." - GW Bush 12/18/2000.

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thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
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T.Carr
2004-09-10 00:40:14 UTC
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Post by Gandalf Grey
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=559273
Bush faces pressure over drugs and draft
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
08 September 2004
After weeks in which John Kerry's military record has been picked to pieces,
President George Bush now faces a double blast of scrutiny over his own
past, raising new questions over his avoidance of the Vietnam draft and his
alleged use of drugs.
The first salvo is due to be fired on CBS tonight, when Ben Barnes, a
Democrat and the lieutenant governor of Texas in 1968, will explain his role
in securing for the 22-year-old Yale graduate Bush a coveted place in the
state's Air National Guard - a unit so full of the sons of Texas's rich and
powerful that it was known as the "Champagne Unit".
The saga of the future President's failure to go to Vietnam has inevitably
returned to the headlines here as counterpoint to the controversy over his
opponent's war record, amid accusations by a group of veterans that Mr Kerry
has lied over his service in Vietnam, for which he received five
decorations.
In recent months Mr Barnes has said he feels "very ashamed" about helping Mr
Bush and the sons of other prominent Texans, and is said to have told
friends that he did it to "collect chits" from powerful families. In the
interview he is expected to expand on these comments.
In a predictably scathing reaction, the Bush campaign - long prepared for a
counterattack on the Vietnam issue after the furore over the ads about Mr
Kerry - has dismissed Mr Barnes as a "partisan Democrat", peddling a rehash
of old allegations against the President. Last week George Bush Snr, the
former president, described charges that he pulled strings for his son as
"total lies". Mr Barnes himself has acknowledged he received no direct
approach from the Bush family to have George W admitted in the Texas
National Guard - a virtual guarantee that he would not be sent to Vietnam.
Lets look a bit more at Mr Barnes

"The Kerry Trustee Leader Board is tracking donations made since
March 1, 2004, when Kerry became the effective nominee. The goal, said
one DC fundraiser familiar with the operation, is to encourage and
recognize donors and fundraisers who go beyond the $2K limit and pony
up the bigger bucks for the DNC as the election approaches.

The Trustee Leader Board comes out every week and shows how much
various fundraisers have contributed personally or convinced their
friends to donate. The highest level is for those raising $500,000 or
more. Other levels include $250,000–$500,000, $150,000-$250,000 and
those who raise over $100,000.

As of last week, according to information received by CBS News, 20
donors have given and/or raised more than $250,000, enough to earn
them the designation of Trustee. Of those, eight have actually raised
more than $500K. Those half-millions include Texas lobbyist Ben
Barnes,

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/18/politics/main624711.shtml

"Gillespie also mentioned Ben Barnes, a vice chair of the Kerry
campaign, who - in an interview with CBS News -- says he pulled
strings to get George W. Bush into the Air National Guard.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=%5CPolitics%5Carchive%5C200409%5CPOL20040909b.html

Big donor and Vice chair of the Kerry campaign now has a change of
story


"Barnes has said he doesn't recall whether his office interceded
with the Guard on behalf of Bush, whose father, George Bush, was a
Republican congressman at the time."

http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/072999/tex_LD0677.001.shtml

Amazing how well a key Kerry supporter "remembers" 50+ days before
the election isnt it gandy?
Post by Gandalf Grey
More trouble may be heading Mr Bush's way with the publication next week of
The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, by the controversial
muckraking biographer Kitty Kelley, which purports to give more details of
the President's past misbehaviour, including the allegation he used cocaine
at Camp David during his father's Presidency between 1989 and 1993.
Yes gandy..Your credible author

"But Sharon Bush, who is divorced from the president's brother Neil,
said in a statement: "I categorically deny that I ever told Kitty
Kelley that George W. Bush used cocaine at Camp David or that I ever
saw him use cocaine at Camp David. When Kitty Kelley raised drug use
at Camp David, I responded by saying something along the lines of,
'Who would say such a thing?'

"Although there have been tensions between me and various members of
the Bush family, I cannot allow this falsehood to go unchallenged."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6706-2004Sep8.html

You do remember what you called the swift boat veterans when aspects
of their stories were not 100% consistent.

Here is your chance to apply the same "outrage"

<crickets>

Now snip,snip,snip


T.Carr
Post by Gandalf Grey
Rumours of youthful drug taking by Mr Bush have often surfaced. Though he
has admitted to being an alcoholic until he gave up drinking completely in
1986, he has sidestepped the cocaine stories. Questioned on the issue during
the 2000 campaign, he acknowledged merely that he had made "some mistakes"
and that he had learned from those mistakes.
The latest book by Ms Kelley, said to be the fruit of four years' research,
follows previous unflattering studies of Nancy Reagan, Frank Sinatra and the
British Royal family.
Using the same tactic as against Mr Barnes, the White House commented that
The Family appeared to be filled "with the same trash discredited years
ago".
The most sensational allegation in the book is that the Presidential son
used cocaine at Camp David. The source is reportedly Sharon Bush, his former
sister-in-law, who was involved in a messy divorce in 2003 from the
President's younger brother Neil after 22 years of marriage.
Ms Kelley says that the Bush family used their power and wealth to cover up
scandals.
She alleges that George W Bush began to drink at high school, and continued
to do so at Yale.
She quotes one former student as saying, "Poor Georgie, he couldn't relate
to women unless he was loaded."
Perhaps the book's most improbable claim is that Laura Bush, now the model
of primness and propriety as First Lady, both sold and smoked marijuana
during her days at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas.
--
--
FAIR USE NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which
has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I am
making such material available in an effort to advance understanding of
environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and
social justice issues, etc. I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any
such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator." - GW Bush 12/18/2000.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop
thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do
we."
--George Bush. Aug. 5th., 2004
"Because America is powerful, we must be sensitive about
expressing our power and influence."
---George Bush, 3/4/01
Gandalf Grey
2004-09-10 00:54:19 UTC
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Post by T.Carr
Post by Gandalf Grey
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=559273
Bush faces pressure over drugs and draft
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
08 September 2004
After weeks in which John Kerry's military record has been picked to pieces,
President George Bush now faces a double blast of scrutiny over his own
past, raising new questions over his avoidance of the Vietnam draft and his
alleged use of drugs.
The first salvo is due to be fired on CBS tonight, when Ben Barnes, a
Democrat and the lieutenant governor of Texas in 1968, will explain his role
in securing for the 22-year-old Yale graduate Bush a coveted place in the
state's Air National Guard - a unit so full of the sons of Texas's rich and
powerful that it was known as the "Champagne Unit".
The saga of the future President's failure to go to Vietnam has inevitably
returned to the headlines here as counterpoint to the controversy over his
opponent's war record, amid accusations by a group of veterans that Mr Kerry
has lied over his service in Vietnam, for which he received five
decorations.
In recent months Mr Barnes has said he feels "very ashamed" about helping Mr
Bush and the sons of other prominent Texans, and is said to have told
friends that he did it to "collect chits" from powerful families. In the
interview he is expected to expand on these comments.
In a predictably scathing reaction, the Bush campaign - long prepared for a
counterattack on the Vietnam issue after the furore over the ads about Mr
Kerry - has dismissed Mr Barnes as a "partisan Democrat", peddling a rehash
of old allegations against the President. Last week George Bush Snr, the
former president, described charges that he pulled strings for his son as
"total lies". Mr Barnes himself has acknowledged he received no direct
approach from the Bush family to have George W admitted in the Texas
National Guard - a virtual guarantee that he would not be sent to Vietnam.
Lets look a bit more at Mr Barnes
"The Kerry Trustee Leader Board is tracking donations made since
March 1, 2004, when Kerry became the effective nominee. The goal, said
one DC fundraiser familiar with the operation, is to encourage and
recognize donors and fundraisers who go beyond the $2K limit and pony
up the bigger bucks for the DNC as the election approaches.
The Trustee Leader Board comes out every week and shows how much
various fundraisers have contributed personally or convinced their
friends to donate. The highest level is for those raising $500,000 or
more. Other levels include $250,000-$500,000, $150,000-$250,000 and
those who raise over $100,000.
As of last week, according to information received by CBS News, 20
donors have given and/or raised more than $250,000, enough to earn
them the designation of Trustee. Of those, eight have actually raised
more than $500K. Those half-millions include Texas lobbyist Ben
Barnes,
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/18/politics/main624711.shtml
"Gillespie also mentioned Ben Barnes, a vice chair of the Kerry
campaign, who - in an interview with CBS News -- says he pulled
strings to get George W. Bush into the Air National Guard.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=%5CPolitics%5Carchive%5C200409%5CPOL20040909b.html
Post by T.Carr
Big donor and Vice chair of the Kerry campaign now has a change of
story
"Barnes has said he doesn't recall whether his office interceded
with the Guard on behalf of Bush, whose father, George Bush, was a
Republican congressman at the time."
http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/072999/tex_LD0677.001.shtml
Amazing how well a key Kerry supporter "remembers" 50+ days before
the election isnt it gandy?
Almost as amazing as Texas GOP moneyman Perry giving thousands to the Bush
Family but not being connected to them even though he worked intimately with
Karl Rove. Almost as amazing as the "unpolitical" John O'Neill giving
thousands to the GOP over the last decade.
Post by T.Carr
Post by Gandalf Grey
More trouble may be heading Mr Bush's way with the publication next week of
The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, by the controversial
muckraking biographer Kitty Kelley, which purports to give more details of
the President's past misbehaviour, including the allegation he used cocaine
at Camp David during his father's Presidency between 1989 and 1993.
Yes gandy..Your credible author
"But Sharon Bush, who is divorced from the president's brother Neil,
said in a statement: "I categorically deny that I ever told Kitty
Kelley that George W. Bush used cocaine at Camp David or that I ever
saw him use cocaine at Camp David. When Kitty Kelley raised drug use
at Camp David, I responded by saying something along the lines of,
'Who would say such a thing?'
"The American people need to know their president isn't a crook. I'm no
crook."
--Richard Nixon

"Read my lips: No new taxes."
--George Herbert Walker Bush

"I did not have sex with that woman."
--Bill Clinton

"I first got to know Ken Lay in 1994"
--George W. Bush

"We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological
laboratories."
--George W. Bush

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