I’m not voting for Trump today

[D. Ray]

I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."

In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.

Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.

With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?

Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.

My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.

Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.

Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.

<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

[D. Ray]

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

Even though I'm against Trump, I'm actually one of his most enthusiastic
students. Lessons I've learned from him:

1. The masses of White Americans are ready for National Socialism. Trump
offered them a watered down, bastardized form of Jewish pseudo-NS, and they
grasped for it like a drowning man. The fact that they haven't expressed
this up to now is not because they don't want it, but because they haven't
been presented with the choice.

2. Oratory and mass meetings, the oldest forms of mobilizing our people
from ancient times, still have power and they still work. The fact that
most politicians in America don't do this is not because these methods are
outdated, but because mainstream political parties and platforms are so
unpopular.

3. Simple, direct language is best for communicating with the people. The
great masses of Whites are not intellectuals, our movement generally needs
fewer boutique takes titillating to big brains, and more straightforward
speakers who can communicate simply and directly with the people.

4. To survive in a System dominated by New York Jews, you sometimes need
to think and act like a New Yorker. That means you sometimes have to be
brash, rude, ruthlessly push your own agenda and shove competition out of
the way.

5. Leverage is the most important element of making a deal in business and
in politics. This takes nerve, creativity and salesmanship--all things
most right-wing Whites don't even think about.

6. You win not by following the rules, but by breaking the rules. Catering
to conservatives, chasing after the approval of the establishment, trying
to present as fake and polished, worrying about what people will say and
think, gets you nowhere fast. Our people want authenticity, guts and
passion. Respecting the conventions of American politics means we lose
every time.

These lessons and more should be learned from Trump and adopted by White
nationalists and populists, without falling for his tricks. Unfortunately
most people take all the wrong lessons from him.

<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853898500603363780?t=9jHDOvILGfY22DaZ1nwENg&s=19>

[D. Ray]

Post by D. Ray

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

Even though I'm against Trump, I'm actually one of his most enthusiastic
1. The masses of White Americans are ready for National Socialism. Trump
offered them a watered down, bastardized form of Jewish pseudo-NS, and they
grasped for it like a drowning man. The fact that they haven't expressed
this up to now is not because they don't want it, but because they haven't
been presented with the choice.
2. Oratory and mass meetings, the oldest forms of mobilizing our people
from ancient times, still have power and they still work. The fact that
most politicians in America don't do this is not because these methods are
outdated, but because mainstream political parties and platforms are so
unpopular.
3. Simple, direct language is best for communicating with the people. The
great masses of Whites are not intellectuals, our movement generally needs
fewer boutique takes titillating to big brains, and more straightforward
speakers who can communicate simply and directly with the people.
4. To survive in a System dominated by New York Jews, you sometimes need
to think and act like a New Yorker. That means you sometimes have to be
brash, rude, ruthlessly push your own agenda and shove competition out of
the way.
5. Leverage is the most important element of making a deal in business and
in politics. This takes nerve, creativity and salesmanship--all things
most right-wing Whites don't even think about.
6. You win not by following the rules, but by breaking the rules. Catering
to conservatives, chasing after the approval of the establishment, trying
to present as fake and polished, worrying about what people will say and
think, gets you nowhere fast. Our people want authenticity, guts and
passion. Respecting the conventions of American politics means we lose
every time.
These lessons and more should be learned from Trump and adopted by White
nationalists and populists, without falling for his tricks. Unfortunately
most people take all the wrong lessons from him.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853898500603363780?t=9jHDOvILGfY22DaZ1nwENg&s=19>

The people who support Trump the most are the people who have learned the
least from him.

Use Your Leverage. That's how you make a good deal. Trump is a master of
this and his supporters are the worst people in the world at doing it.

<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853874836231131219?t=FJ1vLooU9JL86hG_157Zwg&s=19>

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Post by D. Ray
Use Your Leverage

You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D Ball.

FOAD, you traitor to America~!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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Post by D. Ray
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Citizen Winston Smith]

Post by D. Ray
I'm against Trump

You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D. Ball.

FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Citizen Winston Smith]

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump

You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D. Ball.

FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Post by D. Ray
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[NoBody]

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

[D. Ray]

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians

You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D. Ball.

FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians

Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
Musk, Rudey?

Is it time or we will see your sorry ass until January of '25?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Post by D. Ray
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[NoBody]

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

But you're running away from the whiny artilce you posted.

[D. Ray]

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying “Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.” Correct? That’s your plan?

Do you think Trump will pardon Jan 6 protesters who are still in prison?

Post by NoBody
But you're running away from the whiny artilce you posted.

You didn’t say one word about the article.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by D. Ray
You didn’t say one word about the article.

No Rudence, you do not get to reboot.

Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
Musk, Rudey?

Is it time or we will see your sorry ass until January 20th of '25?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin
Susan Cohen and a dozen other forged socks of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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Post by D. Ray
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Trump will pardon Jan 6 protesters who are still in prison?

You voted for a monster, you pieces of cracker human garbage. Kill
yourselves.

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Post by D. Ray
If I'm to die, it'll be in the midst of an attempt to avenge this
theft of the presidency by the Hitler-dictator. I would have no
problem pulling the trigger.

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On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:11:30 -0700, Lil dwarf Rudey

Post by Citizen Winston Smith

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Trump will pardon Jan 6 protesters who are still in prison?

Yep. It's the same rules I always have with him. I will communicate
with him until he goes childish then off to the dumpster. He can't
help himself so it shouldn't take long.

Post by Citizen Winston Smith

Post by D. Ray

You voted for a monster, you pieces of cracker human garbage. Kill
yourselves.

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Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent and our approval, will we get any
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying “Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.” Correct? That’s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Trump will pardon Jan 6 protesters who are still in prison?

Probably and rightly so since the punishments were ridiculously harsh
in proportion to the action.

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody
But you're running away from the whiny artilce you posted.

You didn’t say one word about the article.

It was a word-salad whiny article. I have nothing else to say about
it. If you'd like to raise a point from it, state your position,
there would be something discuss.

[D. Ray]

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying “Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.” Correct? That’s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that “enforcing the law” in case of “hard
working legal migrants” is to just let them stay.

My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they’re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,
because you know that Republicans and Trump will not deport them, but
instead legalize them if they’re here illegally. Republicans will tell you
that those Haitians are now perfectly legal hardworking people, and you
over here will be repeating same me shit to me saying: “See, I told you,
they would have been deported if they were illegal! But they’re not,
they’re totally fine! Rule of law! Law says they’re legal! You are against
them just because you’re racist Nazi!”

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Trump will pardon Jan 6 protesters who are still in prison?

Probably and rightly so since the punishments were ridiculously harsh
in proportion to the action.

What will you do if he won’t?

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody
But you're running away from the whiny artilce you posted.

You didn’t say one word about the article.

It was a word-salad whiny article. I have nothing else to say about
it. If you'd like to raise a point from it, state your position,
there would be something discuss.

Point of that article is that Trump was always lying to you, and you don’t
hold him accountable, moreover, now you don’t even have a possible way to
hold him accountable. He won, and he don’t have to hold his promises to
you. He didn’t last time.

Do you think he’ll end birthright citizenship?

“Trump says he'll END birthright citizenship for children of illegal
immigrants: Vows on 'day one' to end 'birth tourism' for border crossers if
he wins the 2024 race”

<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12140079/Trump-says-hell-END-birthright-citizenship-children-illegal-immigrants-wins-2024-race.html>

I remember him saying same shit in 2015. He didn’t. He didn’t need wall for
that, but he still didn’t do it.

What’s your opinion? We can wait for ‘day one’ and see who’s predictions
come true.

[Citizen Winston Smith]

Post by D. Ray
Do you think he’ll end birthright citizenship?

No Rudence, you do not get to reboot.

Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
Musk, Rudey?

Is it time or we will see your sorry ass until January 20th of '25?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin
Susan Cohen and a dozen other forged socks of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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Post by D. Ray
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[NoBody]

On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 14:27:07 -0700, Citizen Winston Smith

Post by Lil dwarf Rudey

Do you think he’ll end birthright citizenship?

No Rudence, you do not get to reboot.

Yep. These new versions make even less sense the previous
incarnations of Rudely. But I'll toy with him until he starts the
childishness.

He has to play by MY rules or he doesn't get to play.

I love it.

[NoBody]

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that “enforcing the law” in case of “hard
working legal migrants” is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they’re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Post by D. Ray
because you know that Republicans and Trump will not deport them, but
instead legalize them if they’re here illegally. Republicans will tell you
that those Haitians are now perfectly legal hardworking people, and you
over here will be repeating same me shit to me saying: “See, I told you,
they would have been deported if they were illegal! But they’re not,
they’re totally fine! Rule of law! Law says they’re legal! You are against
them just because you’re racist Nazi!”

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
Do you think Trump will pardon Jan 6 protesters who are still in prison?

Probably and rightly so since the punishments were ridiculously harsh
in proportion to the action.

What will you do if he won’t?

And you're back to throwing out a false premise, projecting it onto
me...

Rinse and repeat.

[D. Ray]

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that “enforcing the law” in case of “hard
working legal migrants” is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they’re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: “Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.” Just say it. What’s the problem?

[NoBody]

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: “Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.” Just say it. What’s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens. I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

[D. Ray]

Post by NoBody

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray

Post by NoBody

Post by D. Ray
concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: “Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.” Just say it. What’s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify “illegal” is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were “legal”.

Post by NoBody
I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

Post by NoBody
I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your “original answer” is admitting that GOP won’t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were “right” even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ‘day one’? Is there a reason
you decided to “not notice” that question?

[NoBody]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify “illegal” is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were “legal”.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

Post by NoBody
I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Post by NoBody
I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your “original answer” is admitting that GOP won’t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were “right” even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ‘day one’? Is there a reason
you decided to “not notice” that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

[D. Ray]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify “illegal” is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were “legal”.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

Post by NoBody
I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Post by NoBody
I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your “original answer” is admitting that GOP won’t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were “right” even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ‘day one’? Is there a reason
you decided to “not notice” that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I’m not asking it now. I know I’m not going to get any other answer from
you. I’m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you’re answering the way
you do, and it’s because even you don’t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will
deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

The lesson here is not that you’re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don’t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It’s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You’re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
“record amount” of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
“illegal immigrants” will turn into “new Republican voters”?

Here’s an example of those mass deportations that you gonna get from Trump:

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>

“President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.”

On his last day in office, nonetheless all the “blood of nation” bullshit,
all the complaints about “migrant crime”, etc.

You don’t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna
vote in the next election. Same with the rest of stupid boomers who allowed
turning the country that their children were supposed to get into country
of Jamal and Enrique. But I believe there are still some people here who
need to know how likes of Trump and GOP establishment operate. One not
going to get anything from them without a way of holding them accountable.
Well, maybe some liberal tears, but in 2024 a lot of them realize that
Trump is all the bark and none of the bite. There was only one low energy
protest in Chicago in front of Trump tower and that’s it.

I’m planning to spend next four years here constantly reminding everyone of
all the “day one” promises.

[NoBody]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

Post by D. Ray
My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify ?illegal? is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were ?legal?.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

Post by NoBody
I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Silence as expected.

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I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your ?original answer? is admitting that GOP won?t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were ?right? even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ?day one?? Is there a reason
you decided to ?not notice? that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I’m not asking it now. I know I’m not going to get any other answer from
you. I’m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you’re answering the way
you do, and it’s because even you don’t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will
deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

The lesson here is not that you’re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don’t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It’s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You’re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
“record amount” of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
“illegal immigrants” will turn into “new Republican voters”?

And now you're throwing a tantrum.

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>
“President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.”
On his last day in office, nonetheless all the “blood of nation” bullshit,
all the complaints about “migrant crime”, etc.

Blah, Blah, Blah.

I'll give you one last chance to put out a coherent thought about what
you think Trump's deportation will look like. You've been all over
the map here and interpret my remarks as something different than what
I've said.

You don’t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna

Boring Rudely, Boring!

vote in the next election. Same with the rest of stupid boomers who allowed
turning the country that their children were supposed to get into country
of Jamal and Enrique. But I believe there are still some people here who
need to know how likes of Trump and GOP establishment operate. One not
going to get anything from them without a way of holding them accountable.
Well, maybe some liberal tears, but in 2024 a lot of them realize that
Trump is all the bark and none of the bite. There was only one low energy
protest in Chicago in front of Trump tower and that’s it.
I’m planning to spend next four years here constantly reminding everyone of
all the “day one” promises.

Nah. You'll be in everyone's killfile howling at the moon for not
making any sense whatsoever.

Choice is up to you.

[NoBody]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

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My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify ?illegal? is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were ?legal?.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

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I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Silence as expected.

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I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your ?original answer? is admitting that GOP won?t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were ?right? even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ?day one?? Is there a reason
you decided to ?not notice? that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I’m not asking it now. I know I’m not going to get any other answer from
you. I’m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you’re answering the way
you do, and it’s because even you don’t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will
deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

The lesson here is not that you’re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don’t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It’s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You’re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
“record amount” of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
“illegal immigrants” will turn into “new Republican voters”?

And now you're throwing a tantrum.

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>
“President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.”
On his last day in office, nonetheless all the “blood of nation” bullshit,
all the complaints about “migrant crime”, etc.

Blah, Blah, Blah.
I'll give you one last chance to put out a coherent thought about what
you think Trump's deportation will look like. You've been all over
the map here and interpret my remarks as something different than what
I've said.

You don’t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna

Boring Rudely, Boring!

vote in the next election. Same with the rest of stupid boomers who allowed
turning the country that their children were supposed to get into country
of Jamal and Enrique. But I believe there are still some people here who
need to know how likes of Trump and GOP establishment operate. One not
going to get anything from them without a way of holding them accountable.
Well, maybe some liberal tears, but in 2024 a lot of them realize that
Trump is all the bark and none of the bite. There was only one low energy
protest in Chicago in front of Trump tower and that’s it.
I’m planning to spend next four years here constantly reminding everyone of
all the “day one” promises.

Nah. You'll be in everyone's killfile howling at the moon for not
making any sense whatsoever.
Choice is up to you.

Yeah didn't think so...

[D. Ray]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

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My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify ?illegal? is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were ?legal?.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

Post by NoBody
I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Silence as expected.

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I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your ?original answer? is admitting that GOP won?t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were ?right? even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ?day one?? Is there a reason
you decided to ?not notice? that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I’m not asking it now. I know I’m not going to get any other answer from
you. I’m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you’re answering the way
you do, and it’s because even you don’t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will
deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

The lesson here is not that you’re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don’t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It’s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You’re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
“record amount” of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
“illegal immigrants” will turn into “new Republican voters”?

And now you're throwing a tantrum.

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>
“President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.”
On his last day in office, nonetheless all the “blood of nation” bullshit,
all the complaints about “migrant crime”, etc.

Blah, Blah, Blah.
I'll give you one last chance to put out a coherent thought about what
you think Trump's deportation will look like. You've been all over
the map here and interpret my remarks as something different than what
I've said.
even you don’t believe those people would be deported. Otherwise you
would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

As to Trump’s immigration policy, here’s good article:

<https://littoria.substack.com/p/trumps-second-term-what-to-expect>

Basically it’s what I already said here and in another threads: he’s not
going to deliver what he promised.

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You don’t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna

Boring Rudely, Boring!

vote in the next election. Same with the rest of stupid boomers who allowed
turning the country that their children were supposed to get into country
of Jamal and Enrique. But I believe there are still some people here who
need to know how likes of Trump and GOP establishment operate. One not
going to get anything from them without a way of holding them accountable.
Well, maybe some liberal tears, but in 2024 a lot of them realize that
Trump is all the bark and none of the bite. There was only one low energy
protest in Chicago in front of Trump tower and that’s it.
I’m planning to spend next four years here constantly reminding everyone of
all the “day one” promises.

Nah. You'll be in everyone's killfile howling at the moon for not
making any sense whatsoever.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

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Choice is up to you.

[NoBody]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

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My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify ?illegal? is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were ?legal?.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

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I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Silence as expected.

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I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your ?original answer? is admitting that GOP won?t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were ?right? even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ?day one?? Is there a reason
you decided to ?not notice? that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I?m not asking it now. I know I?m not going to get any other answer from
you. I?m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you?re answering the way
you do, and it?s because even you don?t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: ?Yes, Trump will
deport them.? Without any ?ifs?.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

The lesson here is not that you?re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don?t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It?s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You?re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
?record amount? of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
?illegal immigrants? will turn into ?new Republican voters??

And now you're throwing a tantrum.

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>
?President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.?
On his last day in office, nonetheless all the ?blood of nation? bullshit,
all the complaints about ?migrant crime?, etc.

Blah, Blah, Blah.
I'll give you one last chance to put out a coherent thought about what
you think Trump's deportation will look like. You've been all over
the map here and interpret my remarks as something different than what
I've said.

Which was...nothing.

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even you don’t believe those people would be deported. Otherwise you
would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

<https://littoria.substack.com/p/trumps-second-term-what-to-expect>
Basically it’s what I already said here and in another threads: he’s not
going to deliver what he promised.

An article full of nonsensical partisanship. As to what he will do
that is yet to come but he's made solid appointments to lay the
foundation of what is to come.

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You don?t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna

Boring Rudely, Boring!

Laughter.

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vote in the next election. Same with the rest of stupid boomers who allowed
turning the country that their children were supposed to get into country
of Jamal and Enrique. But I believe there are still some people here who
need to know how likes of Trump and GOP establishment operate. One not
going to get anything from them without a way of holding them accountable.
Well, maybe some liberal tears, but in 2024 a lot of them realize that
Trump is all the bark and none of the bite. There was only one low energy
protest in Chicago in front of Trump tower and that?s it.
I?m planning to spend next four years here constantly reminding everyone of
all the ?day one? promises.

Nah. You'll be in everyone's killfile howling at the moon for not
making any sense whatsoever.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

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Choice is up to you.

Looks like you're heading there shortly. There's still time left for
you!

[Blue Lives Matter]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

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My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify ?illegal? is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were ?legal?.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

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I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Silence as expected.

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I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your ?original answer? is admitting that GOP won?t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were ?right? even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ?day one?? Is there a reason
you decided to ?not notice? that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I?m not asking it now. I know I?m not going to get any other answer from
you. I?m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you?re answering the way
you do, and it?s because even you don?t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: ?Yes, Trump will
deport them.? Without any ?ifs?.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

The lesson here is not that you?re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don?t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It?s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You?re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
?record amount? of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
?illegal immigrants? will turn into ?new Republican voters??

And now you're throwing a tantrum.

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>
?President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.?
On his last day in office, nonetheless all the ?blood of nation? bullshit,
all the complaints about ?migrant crime?, etc.

Blah, Blah, Blah.
I'll give you one last chance to put out a coherent thought about what
you think Trump's deportation will look like. You've been all over
the map here and interpret my remarks as something different than what
I've said.

Which was...

stuff you can't refute. Correct.

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even you don’t believe those people would be deported. Otherwise you
would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

<https://littoria.substack.com/p/trumps-second-term-what-to-expect>
Basically it’s what I already said here and in another threads: he’s not
going to deliver what he promised.

An article full of nonsensical partisanship.

Bullshit. The article *accurately* describes what Trump was saying pre- and
post-election in 2016, and what he did in office.

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You don?t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna

Boring Rudely, Boring!

You're not addressing Rudy. He didn't write that.

[D. Ray]

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I'm not voting for Trump today, and I'm not doing this as way of being
stubborn or contrarian or I'm letting the "perfect be the enemy of the
good."
In the first place, my vote doesn't matter, it's purely symbolic.  We live
in a winner-take-all system, there is no proportional representation, so
voting in general barely matters, and voting for president in anything but
a "swing state" actually doesn't matter at all.
Another reason my vote doesn't matter is because the two leading candidates
are the product of an absolute plutocracy.  That means if you're not a
billionaire, you have no ability to influence the candidates in a
meaningful way.  It's like voting on which galaxy you like better,
Andromeda or Ursa Major?  As a mere Earthling, you have no ability to
influence the gravitational forces of clusters of billions of stars
millions of light-years away--and as a working-class person you have no
ability to influence presidential politics in a plutocracy.
With all of that said (and it's important to say it because not enough of
our people exist in the real world), why am I not even casting a symbolic
vote for Donald Trump?
Because if I give my consent to voting for Trump, based on his own
principles outlined in "The Art of the Deal," I will have given away my
last microscopic speck of leverage over him and the Republican Party.  If
Trump wins, he's not going to credit White people, even if record numbers
of White working class people put him over the line.  He will credit
Blacks, Hispanics and other racial minorities for his victory, which will
sanction and further accelerate the MAGA trend of an increasingly
diversified GOP (with the corresponding reduction of influence of White
Republicans).  White people begging, hat in hand, for bread crumbs from a
Republican Party that refuses to acknowledge they exist, will only result
in a further diminishing of our interests.  Only by protesting, not
cooperating, withholding our consent an

approval, will we get any

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concessions out of the GOP or the System as a whole.
My vote would also symbolically sanction the choice of Miriam Adelson,
Randy Fine, Benjamin Netanyahu and Itimar Ben-Gvir, the worst enemies of
humanity, and as Ben Shapiro has correctly pointed out, it will be Howard
Lutnick and Jared Kushner hand-picking the staff of the second Trump
administration.  In the face of such naked Zionist power over Trump, a vote
for Trump is essentially a vote for Israeli meddling, or even direct
Israeli control over the presidency.  We don't advance our interests or our
sovereignty by elevating traitors in the service of a foreign power!  That
should be simple enough.
Another major reason I'm not voting for Trump is I agree with Ben Shapiro
that the best indication of what Trump's second term will be like is what
his first term was like.  Many of the "Never Trumpers" who opposed him in
2016 are now enthusiastically supporting him in 2024--what changed?  We had
four years of Trump in office, and based on that new information the Never
Trumpers have adjusted their politics accordingly.  If those of us who
supported him in 2016 don't take the same information into account, then
this is simply wishful thinking.
Another important fact to note, something else Shapiro and many others have
observed, is that the so-called "guardrails" on what is called "our
democracy" are "strong enough to withstand" Trumpism.  What that really
means is that the courts are rigged, the Congress is bought off in such a
way that even if Trump wanted to make big changes, he wouldn't be able to
do it.  The GOP is rotten to the core, this is why they aren't busy
implementing the MAGA agenda in places they already control, like the state
of Ohio.  The vast majority of conservative judges & legislators will block
all the most popular elements of MAGA.  A vote for Trump will effectivity
be another vote for empowering the conservative status quo that has been
slowly  killing our people for decades.
<https://x.com/Ahab4K/status/1853868615260688424?t=3QmV5uzpLr8KkwgLQ14pnQ&s=19>

We don't care. We won without you.

Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?

If they are there illegally or there is an issue with their legal
status, I suspect that's possible.

So Trump is not President yet, but you already preparing to pull down your
pants and bend over? Because you damn well know those people are perfectly
legal. And you damn well know that after copulation you would be putting
back on your big girl panties saying ?Thank you, Mr. Trump, now we all know
those are hard working legal migrants. We love hard working legal migrants.
America is nation of immigrants. And those White people from Springfield
are just racist Nazis. We are not racist Nazis.? Correct? That?s your plan?

Why would enforcing the law be considered "pulling down your pants"?

Because you know very well that ?enforcing the law? in case of ?hard
working legal migrants? is to just let them stay.

I love how you throw out a false premise, project it onto me, then
continue with your silliness.

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My position is that those people are not going to be deported, regardless
if they?re legal or illegal. You are afraid to state that they will be,

Uh...yeah....sure.

Yeah, sure. Otherwise you would just say: ?Yes, Trump and GOP will deport
Haitians from Springfield, OH.? Just say it. What?s the problem?

Wander wander wander. I originally stated that it is very likely that
Trump will deport illegal aliens.

The reason you have to specify ?illegal? is because you know that even
though Trump and GOP spent a lot of time bitching about Haitians in
Springfield in their election campaign, they will either legalize them, or
admit that these people already were ?legal?.

Uh....sure...whatever you say.

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I didn't realize I had to specify
where they'd be located currently.

I specified the location in my question.

I answered your question (twice) and you're STILL going on.

Silence as expected.

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I will stick with my original answer so you can't shift to some other
location.

Your ?original answer? is admitting that GOP won?t do shit, and you leave
room for yourself so you can pretend that you were ?right? even though
nothing was done. Typical Cuckservative rhetoric.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

So what about ending birthright citizenship on ?day one?? Is there a reason
you decided to ?not notice? that question?

No answer is satisfactory to you. You can't stop asking a question
that's been answered so why would I answer yet another one?

I?m not asking it now. I know I?m not going to get any other answer from
you. I?m demonstrating to whoever reading us why you?re answering the way
you do, and it?s because even you don?t believe those people would be
deported. Otherwise you would have no problem saying: ?Yes, Trump will
deport them.? Without any ?ifs?.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

The lesson here is not that you?re a cuck who likes to be manhandled by
GOP. The lesson is why they, even though they campaigned on immigration
issues for decades, and the guy who personally promised mass deportations
for almost a decade, don?t see the need to actually do anything they
promised you now when they are in power. It?s because you gonna get on you
hands and knees and vote for them no matter what. You know that, I know
that, and they know that, too. You?re their bitch. No one have loyalty to
their bitch. And GOP have even less reasons to be loyal to you now when
they convinced themselves that they can do without you will all this
?record amount? of votes from Jamal and Juan. How long until all these
?illegal immigrants? will turn into ?new Republican voters??

And now you're throwing a tantrum.

<https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/trump-venezuela-temporary-legal-status-460524>
?President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced he will offer Venezuelan
exiles protection from deportation, a move he has considered for years but
refused to do until his last full day in office.?
On his last day in office, nonetheless all the ?blood of nation? bullshit,
all the complaints about ?migrant crime?, etc.

Blah, Blah, Blah.
I'll give you one last chance to put out a coherent thought about what
you think Trump's deportation will look like. You've been all over
the map here and interpret my remarks as something different than what
I've said.

Which was...nothing.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

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even you don’t believe those people would be deported. Otherwise you
would have no problem saying: “Yes, Trump will deport them.” Without any “ifs”.

<https://littoria.substack.com/p/trumps-second-term-what-to-expect>
Basically it’s what I already said here and in another threads: he’s not
going to deliver what he promised.

An article full of nonsensical partisanship. As to what he will do
that is yet to come but he's made solid appointments to lay the
foundation of what is to come.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

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You don?t really matter much. You gonna die soon, probably not even gonna

Boring Rudely, Boring!

Laughter.

Uh...sure...whatever you s

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vote in the next election. Same with the rest of stupid boomers who allowed
turning the country that their children were supposed to get into country
of Jamal and Enrique. But I believe there are still some people here who
need to know how likes of Trump and GOP establishment operate. One not
going to get anything from them without a way of holding them accountable.
Well, maybe some liberal tears, but in 2024 a lot of them realize that
Trump is all the bark and none of the bite. There was only one low energy
protest in Chicago in front of Trump tower and that?s it.
I?m planning to spend next four years here constantly reminding everyone of
all the ?day one? promises.

Nah. You'll be in everyone's killfile howling at the moon for not
making any sense whatsoever.

Uh...sure...whatever you say.

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Choice is up to you.

Looks like you're heading there shortly. There's still time left for
you!

Uh...sure...whatever you say.