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Armistice Day 2024
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Dhu on Gate
2024-11-11 18:10:34 UTC
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It's been a hundred and six years since the end of WW1.

All the people involved are gone now and we are told to
Honor our Glorious Dead.

I tell you here and now the veterans of that War didn't
see it that way nor did all the girls who never married
because of it.

There is no Glory in War for the dead: they become one
with the mud. Better to keep 'em here an' put them to
some good use.

Dhu
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Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-11-16 06:42:26 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
It's been a hundred and six years since the end of WW1.
It was a war that was all about empires: France and Britain trying to
ensure the dominance of their empires against upstart Germany, which was
becoming a power in its own right and wanting an empire of its own. And
also a chance to knock off the Ottoman Empire and steal parts of it while
they were at it. Remember that both Italy and Japan were on the side of
the Allies in that one.

This was when the British Royal House got rid of their “Saxe-Coburg Gotha”
family name, to play down the fact that the Kaiser was their cousin, and
adopted the more Pommy-sounding “Windsor”.

The war saw the complete destruction of the German economy. And opened a
chance for a dictatorial strongman to take over -- you know, someone who
could rally (most of) the people together by blaming all their troubles on
some suitably defenceless scapegoat, like some traditionally-persecuted
ethnic groups, and offer grand promises about Making Fatherland Great
Again ...
Tony
2024-11-16 19:41:34 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Post by Dhu on Gate
It's been a hundred and six years since the end of WW1.
It was a war that was all about empires: France and Britain trying to
ensure the dominance of their empires against upstart Germany
Absolutely wrong.
See https://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-I
Your political opinions are distorting your ability to understand the real
cause.
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
, which was
becoming a power in its own right and wanting an empire of its own. And
also a chance to knock off the Ottoman Empire and steal parts of it while
they were at it. Remember that both Italy and Japan were on the side of
the Allies in that one.
This was when the British Royal House got rid of their “Saxe-Coburg Gotha”
family name, to play down the fact that the Kaiser was their cousin, and
adopted the more Pommy-sounding “Windsor”.
The war saw the complete destruction of the German economy. And opened a
chance for a dictatorial strongman to take over -- you know, someone who
could rally (most of) the people together by blaming all their troubles on
some suitably defenceless scapegoat, like some traditionally-persecuted
ethnic groups, and offer grand promises about Making Fatherland Great
Again ...
Dhu on Gate
2024-11-18 15:07:16 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Post by Dhu on Gate
It's been a hundred and six years since the end of WW1.
It was a war that was all about empires: France and Britain trying to
ensure the dominance of their empires against upstart Germany
Absolutely wrong.
See https://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-I
Your political opinions are distorting your ability to understand the real
cause.
This:
"
All the people involved are gone now and we are told to Honor our Glorious
Dead.

I tell you here and now the veterans of that War didn't see it that way
nor did all the girls who never married because of it.

There is no Glory in War for the dead: they become one with the mud.
Better to keep 'em here an' put them to some good use.

Dhu
"

Is what I wrote. Not the baltch recorded there.

Learn to use the quotes WRITE or fuck off, junior.

Dhu
Post by Tony
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
, which was
becoming a power in its own right and wanting an empire of its own. And
also a chance to knock off the Ottoman Empire and steal parts of it while
they were at it. Remember that both Italy and Japan were on the side of
the Allies in that one.
This was when the British Royal House got rid of their “Saxe-Coburg Gotha”
family name, to play down the fact that the Kaiser was their cousin, and
adopted the more Pommy-sounding “Windsor”.
The war saw the complete destruction of the German economy. And opened a
chance for a dictatorial strongman to take over -- you know, someone who
could rally (most of) the people together by blaming all their troubles on
some suitably defenceless scapegoat, like some traditionally-persecuted
ethnic groups, and offer grand promises about Making Fatherland Great
Again ...
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell
Dhu on Gate
2024-11-18 15:33:19 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
Post by Tony
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Post by Dhu on Gate
It's been a hundred and six years since the end of WW1.
It was a war that was all about empires: France and Britain trying to
ensure the dominance of their empires against upstart Germany
Absolutely wrong.
See https://www.britannica.com/event/World-War-I
Your political opinions are distorting your ability to understand the real
cause.
"
All the people involved are gone now and we are told to Honor our Glorious
Dead.
I tell you here and now the veterans of that War didn't see it that way
nor did all the girls who never married because of it.
There is no Glory in War for the dead: they become one with the mud.
Better to keep 'em here an' put them to some good use.
Dhu
"
Is what I wrote. Not the baltch recorded there.
Learn to use the quotes WRITE or fuck off, junior.
Dhu
Post by Tony
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
, which was
becoming a power in its own right and wanting an empire of its own. And
also a chance to knock off the Ottoman Empire and steal parts of it while
they were at it. Remember that both Italy and Japan were on the side of
the Allies in that one.
This was when the British Royal House got rid of their “Saxe-Coburg Gotha”
family name, to play down the fact that the Kaiser was their cousin, and
adopted the more Pommy-sounding “Windsor”.
The war saw the complete destruction of the German economy. And opened a
chance for a dictatorial strongman to take over -- you know, someone who
could rally (most of) the people together by blaming all their troubles on
some suitably defenceless scapegoat, like some traditionally-persecuted
ethnic groups, and offer grand promises about Making Fatherland Great
Again ...
This, having read it, is fairly accurate but only amplifies my original
post's contention that WW1 achieved nothing but wasted a lot of Men and
set the stage for the NAZIs in Germany. And I've still seen no proof
of death camps in Xinkian an' it's not like the Mandarins to waste a
lot of strong backs they've already paid for so... Mebbe the Russians
could learn a thing or two about dealing with their NAZIs (or whatever)
from them.

Dhu
--
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.
C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
Duncan Patton a Campbell
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