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Dhu on Gate
2024-05-29 17:01:29 UTC
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Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind
turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from manufacturing
through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch on
fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
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There's no foundation in that video or picture.
You're looking at the TOP of the tower.
Which was sheared off at the foundation.
Nope.
As is shown with absolutely in my later post.
WTF Language is this?? Not Engrish, fer sure.

With Absolutely [somethingmissinghere?]...

GTFU or go back to skuul, me Spalling Kween.

Dhu

P.S. Rush's DEAD.
Keep losing, loser-2!
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Dhu on Gate
2024-05-29 23:44:18 UTC
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But you go ahead and quote the text in that article that even mentions
damage to wind turbines.
Read the rest of the context, the Texas wind grid towers went down and
impacted regional power transmission.
What, I have to post the whole text for you, child?
The Power Grid in Texas is a "State Of the Art" Clusterfuck:
private bizes are not structurally capable of acting in the
Common Interest. They are "necessary but insufficient" to
that task.

Dhu
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Dhu on Gate
2024-06-01 08:19:56 UTC
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On Fri, 31 May 2024 21:31:36 -0700, Alan says...
Yeah... all these pictures are of the same wind turbine.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=wind+turbine+fail&iax=images&ia=images
No, they're not.
LOL... Oh... I think all three of us know that that doesn't matter at this
point... does it.
Failure, is failure.
Come on, now... whine about me changing the direction of the thread... like
someone else we know. ;-)
Just admit you were wrong and move on, loser-1.
Yes: things fail.
Can you show that wind turbines fail more in relation to other methods
of generating electricity?
Whaddaya wanna bet on that? And I mean Money, Ailwin.
Your vaunted Texas ice storm knocked out natural gas as well you know.
Like * said elsewhere, Texas is a clusterf* of collectivist separatists.

Dhu
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Dhu on Gate
2024-06-04 05:14:47 UTC
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No, they're not.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/05/31/intentional-misfeasance-makes-show-trial-conviction-ripe-for-reversal-legal-experts-say/
Come back when you're sober.
Don't be so thick.

The entire US Legal Profession is Dreaming On
the Apropos Weasel Werds to exonerate Drump.

Havin' a Prez who owes ya' beats bein' one
that owes ;-) Bet'er, he *knows* how to beat
that game an' they'll lose their shirts bein'
ow'ed by 'im.

Dhu
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Duncan Patton a Campbell
Dhu on Gate
2024-06-05 16:49:43 UTC
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Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from manufacturing through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch on fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
https://i.imgur.com/ckg40xl.jpeg
So just so we're all clear...
...what with the losers trying to deflect...
...the claim that this was a foundation failure was pure bullshit.
:-)
Oh? An' yer the EXPURT we're sposed to believe? Tell us about
your credentials as an Engineer/Physicist or mebbe just provide
some credible evidence for your claims.

Dhu
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Duncan Patton a Campbell
Loran
2024-06-05 17:20:52 UTC
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Post by Dhu on Gate
Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from manufacturing through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch on fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
https://i.imgur.com/ckg40xl.jpeg
So just so we're all clear...
...what with the losers trying to deflect...
...the claim that this was a foundation failure was pure bullshit.
:-)
Oh? An' yer the EXPURT we're sposed to believe? Tell us about
your credentials as an Engineer/Physicist or mebbe just provide
some credible evidence for your claims.
Dhu
Plus a failure is a failure regardless of where on the tower it occurs.

See: Texas ice storm failures.

This obfuscatory argumentation is the systematic use of attachment
minutiae to deny the severity of the failure.

They can't deny the downed turbines, so they mince words over:

@ How many failed
@ Which components failed
@ What % of the power supply the constitute

...and on and on and on...

Alan took the bolt bait because he was quick to want some easy denial to
harp on.

But he fails to realize that was put in his lap for just that reason
alone - to demonstrate his lack of concern for the overall failures, but
rather his fealty to complete denialism.

As such he has been hook,line, and sinker'd.

A denial bot is more easily dismissed when it's identified with hooked
bait in its mouth.
Alan
2024-06-05 19:16:39 UTC
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Post by Loran
Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind
turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from manufacturing
through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch on
fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
https://i.imgur.com/ckg40xl.jpeg
So just so we're all clear...
...what with the losers trying to deflect...
...the claim that this was a foundation failure was pure bullshit.
:-)
Oh?  An' yer the EXPURT we're sposed to believe?  Tell us about
your credentials as an Engineer/Physicist or mebbe just provide
some credible evidence for your claims.
Dhu
Plus a failure is a failure regardless of where on the tower it occurs.
But the argument was about how long and how costly repairing the failure
would be.
Post by Loran
See: Texas ice storm failures.
Where natural gas failures were much larger than the wind failures...
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-05 19:18:34 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind
turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from
manufacturing through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch
on fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
https://i.imgur.com/ckg40xl.jpeg
So just so we're all clear...
...what with the losers trying to deflect...
...the claim that this was a foundation failure was pure bullshit.
:-)
Oh?  An' yer the EXPURT we're sposed to believe?  Tell us about
your credentials as an Engineer/Physicist or mebbe just provide
some credible evidence for your claims.
Dhu
Plus a failure is a failure regardless of where on the tower it occurs.
But the argument was about how long and how costly repairing the failure
would be.
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.

Your prevarications are not subject driven they are just obfuscations
and denials.
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Post by Loran
See: Texas ice storm failures.
Where natural gas failures were much larger than the wind failures...
Because they were ordered by ERCOT to shutdown.
Alan
2024-06-05 20:53:59 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind
turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from
manufacturing through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch
on fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
https://i.imgur.com/ckg40xl.jpeg
So just so we're all clear...
...what with the losers trying to deflect...
...the claim that this was a foundation failure was pure bullshit.
:-)
Oh?  An' yer the EXPURT we're sposed to believe?  Tell us about
your credentials as an Engineer/Physicist or mebbe just provide
some credible evidence for your claims.
Dhu
Plus a failure is a failure regardless of where on the tower it occurs.
But the argument was about how long and how costly repairing the
failure would be.
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject line, loser-2.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Your prevarications are not subject driven they are just obfuscations
and denials.
Look at the subject line, loser-2.
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
See: Texas ice storm failures.
Where natural gas failures were much larger than the wind failures...
Because they were ordered by ERCOT to shutdown.
Nope.
Loran
2024-06-05 20:57:33 UTC
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Post by CaLaVeRa
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject
THIS is the subject:




Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and damages
homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone orbited
the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have directly
intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
Alan
2024-06-05 23:07:30 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and damages
homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone orbited
the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have directly
intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
That certainly was the topic under discussion...

...but you seem to be unable to understand how minuscule the effect of
Iowa's wind generation capacity was.
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-06 00:19:08 UTC
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Post by Loran
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Post by CaLaVeRa
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and
damages homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone
orbited the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have
directly intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
That certainly was the topic under discussion...
...but you seem to be unable to understand how minuscule the effect of
Iowa's wind generation capacity was.
Scale is not relevant, destruction is.
Alan
2024-06-06 15:23:18 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and
damages homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone
orbited the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could
have directly intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
That certainly was the topic under discussion...
...but you seem to be unable to understand how minuscule the effect of
Iowa's wind generation capacity was.
Scale is not relevant, destruction is.
Scale is ENTIRELY relevant.

That's precisely the same as saying that the scale of a cut you get
isn't relevant.
Loran
2024-06-06 15:59:22 UTC
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Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and
damages homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV
drone orbited the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3
could have directly intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak
underway
That certainly was the topic under discussion...
...but you seem to be unable to understand how minuscule the effect
of Iowa's wind generation capacity was.
Scale is not relevant, destruction is.
Scale is ENTIRELY


CRAZY TEXAS TORNADO BENDS WIND TURBINE BLADES

46,955 views May 8, 2022
This #Tornado took place near the town of #Crowell in #Texas on May 4, 2022



Wind turbine in Ayrshire spins out of control during Storm Gerrit before
sparking and breaking apart


31,869 views Dec 31, 2023 #DailyRecord #windfarm #greenenergy
The giant blades of a 34-metre wind turbine broke off and flew through
the air during storms.

Dramatic footage of the incident also revealed large parts of the
fibreglass structure were left embedded in the ground due to the force
of winds during Storm Gerrit in Galston, Ayrshire.

The damage was caused a few miles from a residential area and has led to
calls for a stricter safety crackdown on turbines close to homes and
businesses. A resident rang the police who alerted the fire service.



Wind Turbine in Germany Snaps and Collapses

Storyful News & Weather

165,704 views Aug 9, 2023
A wind turbine collapsed in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany, on August
7, with residents reporting that the structure had been emitting a loud
noise for a week prior to its fall.


10 Wind Turbine Failures Caught On Camera

2,469,693 views May 26, 2023
10 Wind Turbine Failures Caught On Camera
Alan
2024-06-06 16:30:29 UTC
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Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
Post by Alan
Post by Loran
Post by Alan
Post by CaLaVeRa
No, the thread was about tornadic wind turbine failures.
Look at the subject
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and
damages homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV
drone orbited the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3
could have directly intercepted this tornado. Major tornado
outbreak underway
That certainly was the topic under discussion...
...but you seem to be unable to understand how minuscule the effect
of Iowa's wind generation capacity was.
Scale is not relevant, destruction is.
Scale is ENTIRELY
http://youtu.be/dRht4tkQJIM
CRAZY TEXAS...
Is it interesting how you raise an argument ("scale")...

...then the moment I make a cogent...

(look it up)

...rebutal...

(look it up)

...you immediately go into deflection bot-mode!

:-)
Loran
2024-06-06 16:41:28 UTC
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Post by Alan
...rebutal...
(look it up)
Happens regularly out there, true - bad place for windmills.
And yet you can't produce another incident.
Got it.
Have you the ardent desire to be humiliated every single day of your sad
little life?

http://youtu.be/dRht4tkQJIM

CRAZY TEXAS TORNADO BENDS WIND TURBINE BLADES

46,955 views May 8, 2022
This #Tornado took place near the town of #Crowell in #Texas on May 4, 2022

http://youtu.be/b_mMlmbOm3M

Wind turbine in Ayrshire spins out of control during Storm Gerrit before
sparking and breaking apart


31,869 views Dec 31, 2023 #DailyRecord #windfarm #greenenergy
The giant blades of a 34-metre wind turbine broke off and flew through
the air during storms.

Dramatic footage of the incident also revealed large parts of the
fibreglass structure were left embedded in the ground due to the force
of winds during Storm Gerrit in Galston, Ayrshire.

The damage was caused a few miles from a residential area and has led to
calls for a stricter safety crackdown on turbines close to homes and
businesses. A resident rang the police who alerted the fire service.

http://youtu.be/bdlTV-SLjRc

Wind Turbine in Germany Snaps and Collapses

Storyful News & Weather

165,704 views Aug 9, 2023
A wind turbine collapsed in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany, on August
7, with residents reporting that the structure had been emitting a loud
noise for a week prior to its fall.

http://youtu.be/9oDXQfMapfA
10 Wind Turbine Failures Caught On Camera

2,469,693 views May 26, 2023
10 Wind Turbine Failures Caught On Camera




Unbelievable Windmill accident !

John Burke

30,984 views Aug 21, 2012
My son was watching a newly restored Windmill in the south-west of
France. Luckily my wife was videoing it and got this incredible footage
- it could have been a lot worse !

:-))))))
Loran
2024-06-08 16:24:15 UTC
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Post by Alan
(look it up)
...rebutal...
(look it up)
It's on, we're now in the early stages of a Heinrich Event leading up to
full glaciation shortly:

http://youtu.be/N-1q5cW_V3M

TRIPLE CATASTROPHE - 6000-Year Cycle Happening Now

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adh8369
Heinrich event ice discharge and the fate of the Atlantic Meridional
Overturning Circulation

YUXIN ZHOU HTTPS://ORCID.ORG/0000-0002-3523-8524 AND JERRY F. MCMANUS
HTTPS://ORCID.ORG/0000-0002-7365-1600Authors Info & Affiliations
SCIENCE
30 May 2024
Vol 384, Issue 6699
pp. 983-986
DOI: 10.1126/science.adh8369

Editor’s summary
Will ice mass loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet caused by climate
warming disrupt large-scale ocean circulation? Zhou et al. reconstructed
iceberg production rates during the massive calving episodes of the last
glacial period, called Heinrich events, when icebergs did affect ocean
circulation. The authors found that present-day Greenland Ice Sheet
calving rates are as high as during some of those events.

https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/could-the-day-after-tomorrow-come-true/

A German scientist has echoed the warnings of the film The Day After
Tomorrow, finding that a major oceanic circulation system is becoming
more unstable – with concerning implications for the climate.

A study published in Nature Climate Change observes that the Atlantic
Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) – a massive ocean current
system that circulates through the Atlantic – may have been losing
stability over the past century, due to the influx of melted freshwater
into the ocean.

This is concerning because the AMOC is responsible for the Gulf Stream,
a swift current that brings warm water masses from tropical regions to
the northern hemisphere. Because it redistributes heat, this circulation
system is not only responsible for creating mild temperatures across
Europe but also influencing weather systems across the world.

“The Atlantic Meridional Overturning really is one of our planet’s key
circulation systems,” says Niklas Boers, the study’s author from the
Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, Free University Berlin
and Exeter University.

If it collapses, it could have impacts such as significantly cooling
Europe and affecting tropical monsoon systems.

“We already know from some computer simulations and from data from
Earth’s past, so-called paleoclimate proxy records, that the AMOC can
exhibit – in addition to the currently attained strong mode – an
alternative, substantially weaker mode of operation,” Boers says.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.14877

Machine-learning prediction of tipping and collapse of the Atlantic
Meridional Overturning Circulation
Shirin Panahi, Ling-Wei Kong, Mohammadamin Moradi, Zheng-Meng Zhai,
Bryan Glaz, Mulugeta Haile, Ying-Cheng Lai
Recent research on the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation
(AMOC) raised concern about its potential collapse through a tipping
point due to the climate-change caused increase in the freshwater input
into the North Atlantic. The predicted time window of collapse is
centered about the middle of the century and the earliest possible start
is approximately two years from now. More generally, anticipating a
tipping point at which the system transitions from one stable steady
state to another is relevant to a broad range of fields. We develop a
machine-learning approach to predicting tipping in noisy dynamical
systems with a time-varying parameter and test it on a number of systems
including the AMOC, ecological networks, an electrical power system, and
a climate model. For the AMOC, our prediction based on simulated
fingerprint data and real data of the sea surface temperature places the
time window of a potential collapse between the years 2040 and 2065.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentary/2021-03-24/weve-known-for-years-global-warming-could-lead-to-a-new-ice-age-why-is-no-one-doing-anything

Call it a cascade of calamitous events.

According to scientists, a “cold blob” of water has formed south of
Greenland. The blob’s origins can be traced to rapidly melting glaciers,
which in turn is the consequence of global warming. The blob could
impede the flow of the Gulf Stream, which carries warm water north. And
if that happens, the temperature in Europe may drop steeply, hurricanes
may become more intense, and sea levels on the East Coast of the United
States may rise even more rapidly than they are already.

“We’re all wishing it’s not true,” Peter de Menocal, a scientist at the
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, told The New York Timesearlier
this month. “Because if that happens, it’s just a monstrous change.”

A monstrous change indeed — and one that we’ve known about for decades.
The possibility that climate change could flip and, in just a matter of
years, plunge part of the world into a new ice age is something that has
occasionally made its way into the media. Yet the world has done very
little about it.

http://www.longrangeweather.com/climate_change.htm

Recently, John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel, stated that,
"manmade global warming is the GREATEST SCAM IN HISTORY!"

He went on to add, "I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by this
theory of global warming based on fraudulent science."

He said this, folks, not me. (But, I certainly agree with Dr. Coleman.)

Coleman’s climatological opinion has been recently supported by a top
observatory that has been measuring a rather dramatic decrease in
sunspot activity. These scientists are predicting that global
temperatures will drop by at least two degrees in the next 20 years.

Our friend, Robert Felix, author of "Not By Fire, But By Ice," believes
that this significant cool down could possibly be the start of at least
another "Little Ice Age," possibly a new GREAT ICE AGE, which is overdue
following 11,500 years of generally warmer than normal global temperatures.

This latest period of naturally-occurring warming peaked a decade ago in
1998. It was the strongest such cycle of warming since the days of Leif
Ericcson around 1,000 A.D. At the time, the mighty Vikings were actually
farming parts of Greenland growing wheat, vegetables and raising cattle.
They actually grew tomatoes and grapes!

Robert Felix gives this warning: "Living in the northern U.S. could
eventually be hazardous to your health!"

He goes on to say, "the next major ice age could begin any day...next
week, next month or next year." (Get that snowblower tuned-up.)

Felix believes that someday soon we’ll be "buried beneath nine stories
of ice and snow as the bitter climate of Greenland descends upon Canada,
Britain, Norway, Sweden, the U.S. and other northern regions ---
practically overnight."

It’s all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle of climate
that returns "like clockwork" every 11,500 years.
Dhu on Gate
2024-06-08 17:49:38 UTC
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Post by Alan
(look it up)
...rebutal...
(look it up)
It's on, we're now in the early stages of a Heinrich Event leading up to
http://youtu.be/N-1q5cW_V3M
TRIPLE CATASTROPHE - 6000-Year Cycle Happening Now
We need to be planning FOR Climate Change instead of trying to
mop up spilled milk, which what "Carbon Reduction" amounts to:
Greenwashing.

So lets reduce some Carbon:

"Squad! Commit Suicide!".

Dhu
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Loran
2024-06-08 18:03:38 UTC
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Post by Loran
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(look it up)
...rebutal...
(look it up)
It's on, we're now in the early stages of a Heinrich Event leading up to
http://youtu.be/N-1q5cW_V3M
TRIPLE CATASTROPHE - 6000-Year Cycle Happening Now
We need to be planning FOR Climate Change instead of trying to
Greenwashing.
Plus the absurdly low .04% of atmospheric gasses that CO2 comprises is
an historically low number anyway.

Like in the Jurassic (abundant) flourished in a far warmer and more
gentle climate with over 1,000 ppm CO2.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/05/03/breaking-news-the-climate-actually-changes/

"Fossil records reveal that atmospheric CO2 levels around 600 million
years ago were about 7,000 parts per million, compared with 379 ppm in
2005. Then approximately 480 million years ago those levels gradually
dropped to 4,000 ppm over about 100 million years, while average
temperatures remained at a steady 72 degrees. They then jumped rapidly
to 4,500 ppm and guess what! Temperatures dove to an estimated average
similar to today, even though the CO2 level was around twelve times
higher than now. Yes, as CO2 went up, temperatures plummeted.

About 438 million years ago, atmospheric CO2 dropped from 4,500 ppm to
3,000 ppm, yet according to fossil records, world temperatures shot
rapidly back up to an average 72 degrees. So regardless of whether CO2
levels were 7,000 ppm or 3,000 ppm, temperatures rose and fell
independently.

Over those past 600 million years there have been only three periods,
including now, when Earth's average temperature has been as low as 54
degrees. One occurred about 315 million years ago, during a
45-million-year-long cool spell called the Late Carboniferous period,
which established the beginning of most of our planet's (gasp)
coalfields. Both CO2 and temperatures shot back up at the end of it just
when the main Mesozoic dinosaur era was commencing. CO2 levels rose to
between 1,200 ppm and 1,800 ppm, and temperatures again returned to the
average 72 degrees that Earth seemed to prefer.

Around 180 million years ago, CO2 rocketed up from about 1,200 ppm to
2,500 ppm. And would you believe it? This coincided again with another
big temperature dive from 72 degrees to about 61 degrees. Then at the
border between the Jurassic period when T. Rex ruled and the Cretaceous
period that followed, CO2 levels dropped again, while temperatures
soared back to 72 degrees and remained at that level (about 20 degrees
higher than now) until long after prodigious populations of dinosaurs
became extinct. And flatulent as those creatures may possibly have been,
at least there is no evidence that they burned coal or drove SUVs.

Based upon a variety of proxy indicators, such as ice core and
oceansediment samples, our planet has endured large climate swings on a
number of occasions over the past 1.5 million years due to a number of
natural causes. Included are seasonal warming and cooling effects of
plant growth cycles, greenhouse gases and aerosols emitted from volcanic
eruptions, Earth orbit and solar changes, and other contributors with
combined influences. Yet atmospheric CO2 levels have remained relatively
low over the past 650,000 years, even during the six previous
interglacial periods when global temperatures were as much as 9 degrees
warmer than temperatures we currently enjoy.

Over the past 400,000 years, much of the Northern Hemisphere has been
covered by ice up to miles thick at regular intervals lasting about
100,000 years each. Much shorter interglacial cycles like our current
one lasting 12,000 to 18,000 years have offered reprieves from bitter
cold. Yes, from this perspective current temperatures are abnormally
warm. By about 12,000 to 15,000 years ago Earth had warmed enough to
halt the advance of glaciers and cause sea levels to rise, and the
average temperature has gradually increased on a fairly constant basis
ever since, with brief intermissions."
Post by Dhu on Gate
"Squad! Commit Suicide!".
Dhu
Lol.

Loran
2024-06-06 17:40:17 UTC
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Yes lil' climate hoax followers, the real global cooling is happening
right now!




https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adh8369

Heinrich event ice discharge and the fate of the Atlantic Meridional
Overturning Circulation
Editor’s summary
Will ice mass loss from the Greenland Ice Sheet caused by climate
warming disrupt large-scale ocean circulation? Zhou et al. reconstructed
iceberg production rates during the massive calving episodes of the last
glacial period, called Heinrich events, when icebergs did affect ocean
circulation. The authors found that present-day Greenland Ice Sheet
calving rates are as high as during some of those events. However,
because melting is causing the Greenland Ice Sheet to recede from the
coasts of Greenland, where icebergs originate, its iceberg discharge
should not persist long enough to cause major disruption of the Atlantic
overturning circulation by itself. —Jesse Smith
Abstract
During Heinrich events, great armadas of icebergs episodically flooded
the North Atlantic Ocean and weakened overturning circulation. The ice
discharges of these episodes constrain the sensitivity of overturning
circulation to iceberg melting. We reconstructed these ice discharges to
be as high as 0.13 sverdrup (Sv) (1 Sv = 1 million cubic meters per
second) during Heinrich event 4 and to average 0.029 Sv over all
episodes. The present-day Greenland Ice Sheet calving of icebergs is
comparable to that of a mid-range Heinrich event. As the future
Greenland Ice Sheet recedes from marine-terminating outlets, its iceberg
calving likely will not persist long enough for icebergs alone to cause
catastrophic disruption to the Atlantic overturning circulation,
although the accelerating Greenland runoff and continued global warming
remain threats to the circulation stability.

https://paperswithcode.com/paper/machine-learning-prediction-of-tipping-and

21 Feb 2024 · Shirin Panahi, Ling-Wei Kong, Mohammadamin Moradi,
Zheng-Meng Zhai, Bryan Glaz, Mulugeta Haile, Ying-Cheng Lai · Edit
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Recent research on the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation
(AMOC) raised concern about its potential collapse through a tipping
point due to the climate-change caused increase in the freshwater input
into the North Atlantic. The predicted time window of collapse is
centered about the middle of the century and the earliest possible start
is approximately two years from now. More generally, anticipating a
tipping point at which the system transitions from one stable steady
state to another is relevant to a broad range of fields. We develop a
machine-learning approach to predicting tipping in noisy dynamical
systems with a time-varying parameter and test it on a number of systems
including the AMOC, ecological networks, an electrical power system, and
a climate model. For the AMOC, our prediction based on simulated
fingerprint data and real data of the sea surface temperature places the
time window of a potential collapse between the years 2040 and 2065.
Loran
2024-06-05 19:29:07 UTC
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the argument was about how long and how costly repairing the failure
would be
That was your non sequitur.

But you're right, there was no argument about how spectacular the
failures were!
Alan
2024-06-05 20:58:11 UTC
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Post by Alan
the argument was about how long and how costly repairing the failure
would be
That was your non sequitur.
Nope.

That stems from the original argument presented in the first thread:

'I don't think a power-station could suffer enough damage to be out for
more than a few days. Power
lines, maybe a little longer, but how long do you think it'd take to
replace a wind turbine?

Hell... the concrete probably needs weeks to cure.'

That is literally the argument presented in the thread entitled:

'We Can Put Power Lines Back Up After Hurricanes And Tornadoes...'

And ever since then, you losers have been desperately trying to show
foundation failure...

...and so far, you found one under-engineered example...

...from TWENTY YEARS AGO!

:-)
Loran
2024-06-05 20:59:48 UTC
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That was your non sequitur.
Nope.
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc

Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and damages
homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone orbited
the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have directly
intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
Alan
2024-06-05 23:07:43 UTC
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Post by Loran
That was your non sequitur.
Nope.
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and damages
homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone orbited
the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have directly
intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
Botting out again?
CaLaVeRa
2024-06-06 00:19:36 UTC
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Post by Loran
That was your non sequitur.
Nope.
http://youtu.be/R_ZDVYzIhgc
Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and
damages homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone
orbited the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have
directly intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
Botting out again?
Losing yet another debate again?

Tsk...
Dhu on Gate
2024-06-05 22:35:05 UTC
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Netherlands: When conducting a life cycle assessment of a wind turbine, or any other product, researchers
begin by diagramming each stage of its existence, from manufacturing through end-of-life disposal.
This wind turbine didn't do so well, it didn't freeze up or catch on fire, it blew over... from the wind.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1795322848283885568/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/YRMG79-Fu6CkN_Et.mp4?tag=12
https://i.imgur.com/ckg40xl.jpeg
So just so we're all clear...
...what with the losers trying to deflect...
...the claim that this was a foundation failure was pure bullshit.
:-)
Oh? An' yer the EXPURT we're sposed to believe? Tell us about
your credentials as an Engineer/Physicist or mebbe just provide
some credible evidence for your claims.
Dhu
Plus a failure is a failure regardless of where on the tower it occurs.
See: Texas ice storm failures.
This
Post by Loran
This obfuscatory argumentation is the systematic use of attachment
minutiae to deny the severity of the failure.
is an accurate description of most of Alan's arguments; and
a lot of other systemic idiots hereabouts as well.

Dhu
Post by Loran
@ How many failed
@ Which components failed
@ What % of the power supply the constitute
...and on and on and on...
Alan took the bolt bait because he was quick to want some easy denial to
harp on.
But he fails to realize that was put in his lap for just that reason
alone - to demonstrate his lack of concern for the overall failures, but
rather his fealty to complete denialism.
As such he has been hook,line, and sinker'd.
A denial bot is more easily dismissed when it's identified with hooked
bait in its mouth.
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C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-)
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