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i have a politics question
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kami
2024-08-19 17:15:21 UTC
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if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of
humans adopt?
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2024-08-19 19:18:22 UTC
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Post by kami
if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of
humans adopt?
mine
186282@ud0s4.net
2024-08-20 00:51:40 UTC
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Post by kami
if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of
humans adopt?
mine
Please ... a few big Bubbha's will show up
and crush every bone in your body - mostly
for fun. Unless you're movie bad-ass super-
villain material, sorry, you WILL bow. No
more 'rights', no more 'system'.
186282@ud0s4.net
2024-08-20 00:48:48 UTC
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Post by kami
if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of
humans adopt?
Authoritarian warlords.

If aliens 'just visited' ... not so sure ... but
controlling the socioeconomic confusion, well, it
would still trend towards, and provide the EXCUSE
for, authoritarianism.

IMHO authoritarianism is kind of the 'default' social
system - the Big Kahuna with a big club and big buds
with clubs. Anything 'better' takes a lot of constant
WORK and seems subject to a form of entropy that can
quickly drag us back to the default.

Like many species, humans organize as 'social hierarchical',
some double-alpha in charge and everyone below gets pecked
on. Machiavelli revealed that the double-alpha(s) who are
smart rarely reveal themselves as such - use proxies.
That both keeps them safer and gives them more room to
exercise power behind the scenes. See, IQ is useful
after all - makes us better tyrants ! :-)
kami
2024-08-20 13:26:41 UTC
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Post by kami
if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of
humans adopt?
Authoritarian warlords.
If aliens 'just visited' ... not so sure ... but
controlling the socioeconomic confusion, well, it
would still trend towards, and provide the EXCUSE
for, authoritarianism.
IMHO authoritarianism is kind of the 'default' social
system - the Big Kahuna with a big club and big buds
with clubs. Anything 'better' takes a lot of constant
WORK and seems subject to a form of entropy that can
quickly drag us back to the default.
Like many species, humans organize as 'social hierarchical',
some double-alpha in charge and everyone below gets pecked
on. Machiavelli revealed that the double-alpha(s) who are
smart rarely reveal themselves as such - use proxies.
That both keeps them safer and gives them more room to
exercise power behind the scenes. See, IQ is useful
after all - makes us better tyrants ! :-)
likely the warlord template would be implemented. i had read
somewhere that humans became successful because we learned to
cooperate in larger numbers, which meant killing off the
hyper-alpha males.
186282@ud0s4.net
2024-08-21 01:09:14 UTC
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Post by kami
Post by ***@ud0s4.net
Post by kami
if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of
humans adopt?
Authoritarian warlords.
If aliens 'just visited' ... not so sure ... but
controlling the socioeconomic confusion, well, it
would still trend towards, and provide the EXCUSE
for, authoritarianism.
IMHO authoritarianism is kind of the 'default' social
system - the Big Kahuna with a big club and big buds
with clubs. Anything 'better' takes a lot of constant
WORK and seems subject to a form of entropy that can
quickly drag us back to the default.
Like many species, humans organize as 'social hierarchical',
some double-alpha in charge and everyone below gets pecked
on. Machiavelli revealed that the double-alpha(s) who are
smart rarely reveal themselves as such - use proxies.
That both keeps them safer and gives them more room to
exercise power behind the scenes. See, IQ is useful
after all - makes us better tyrants ! :-)
likely the warlord template would be implemented. i had read
somewhere that humans became successful because we learned to
cooperate in larger numbers, which meant killing off the
hyper-alpha males.
Were never many of those. Gilgamesh fits the bill, maybe
Alexander of Macedon, Ramses-II ......

Humans appear to have been "successful" for TWO main
reasons. The first was just being the most treacherous
and dangerous of the genetic line. The other revolves
around "organization" - getting groups to act in some
harmonious fashion for a "greater goal", maybe whether
they like it or not.

To serve that latter end, 'religion' and 'politics'
evolved. One was to bamboozle, the other to be a
proxy 'hyper-alpha'. Combined smartly they equal VAST
power over the millions.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-08-21 01:39:14 UTC
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if aliens invaded, which system of politics would a majority of humans
adopt?
We are pack creatures. I suppose it would depend on how much of pack
creatures the aliens were.

If they were some sort of unified “hive mind”, would they basically out-
pack us?

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