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Trump's Fascism Takes Form
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Bradley K. Sherman
2024-05-28 14:58:55 UTC
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| Training materials produced by the Florida Department of
| Education direct middle and high school teachers to
| indoctrinate students in the tenets of Christian
| nationalism, a right-wing effort to merge Christian and
| American identities. Thousands of Florida teachers, lured
| by cash stipends, have attended trainings featuring these
| materials.
| ...
<https://popular.info/p/exclusive-florida-educators-trained>

--bks
Mitchell Holman
2024-05-28 17:55:28 UTC
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| Training materials produced by the Florida Department of
| Education direct middle and high school teachers to
| indoctrinate students in the tenets of Christian
| nationalism, a right-wing effort to merge Christian and
| American identities. Thousands of Florida teachers, lured
| by cash stipends, have attended trainings featuring these
| materials.
| ...
<https://popular.info/p/exclusive-florida-educators-trained>
--bks
And Florida parents will wonder why
their children do so poorly on SAT tests.



"Write an essay about declining
birth rates around the world"

- "It's all the fault of Jews
and socialists who reject Jesus.
What, isn't that the right answer?"
Bradley K. Sherman
2024-06-09 14:46:24 UTC
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!

<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>

You can't make this shit up.

--bks
Mitchell Holman
2024-06-09 18:20:40 UTC
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.



Texas schools are being told to teach
opposing views of the Holocaust.
19 Oct 2022

"I’ve been trying to imagine what Gina
Peddy could have been thinking when, on
8 October, she informed a group of
Southlake, Texas, elementary school
teachers that, if their classroom
libraries included books about the
Holocaust, students should also be
steered toward books with "opposing
views".

The executive director for curriculum
and instruction for the Carroll
Independent school district, Peddy
later explained that she was simply
helping her staff comply with Texas
House Bill 3979. Signed into law on
1 September by Governor Greg Abbott,
the ruling prohibits educators from
discussing controversial historical,
social or political issues. If these
subjects do arise, HB 3979 mandates
that teachers "explore such issues
from diverse and contending
perspectives without giving deference
to any one perspective".

If teachers are obliged to tell their
classes that there is "another point
of view" about whether the Holocaust
occurred, must American history lessons
now also include books asserting that
the United States was never a slave-
holding nation or that racism ended with
the Emancipation Proclamation? If the
discussion surrounding a novel or story
leads a class to conclude that LGBTQ+
people are entitled to basic human
rights, must the class be asked to
seriously consider the opposing view:
that those rights should be denied to
anyone who differs from the heterosexual
norm?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-
curriculum-schools-hb-3979
Governor Swill
2024-06-09 18:53:17 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Post by Mitchell Holman
Texas schools are being told to teach
opposing views of the Holocaust.
19 Oct 2022
"I’ve been trying to imagine what Gina
Peddy could have been thinking when, on
8 October, she informed a group of
Southlake, Texas, elementary school
teachers that, if their classroom
libraries included books about the
Holocaust, students should also be
steered toward books with "opposing
views".
The executive director for curriculum
and instruction for the Carroll
Independent school district, Peddy
later explained that she was simply
helping her staff comply with Texas
House Bill 3979. Signed into law on
1 September by Governor Greg Abbott,
the ruling prohibits educators from
discussing controversial historical,
social or political issues. If these
subjects do arise, HB 3979 mandates
that teachers "explore such issues
from diverse and contending
perspectives without giving deference
to any one perspective".
If teachers are obliged to tell their
classes that there is "another point
of view" about whether the Holocaust
occurred, must American history lessons
now also include books asserting that
the United States was never a slave-
holding nation or that racism ended with
the Emancipation Proclamation? If the
discussion surrounding a novel or story
leads a class to conclude that LGBTQ+
people are entitled to basic human
rights, must the class be asked to
that those rights should be denied to
anyone who differs from the heterosexual
norm?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-
curriculum-schools-hb-3979
Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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Mitchell Holman
2024-06-10 01:56:13 UTC
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Post by Governor Swill
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Mitchell Holman
Texas schools are being told to teach
opposing views of the Holocaust.
19 Oct 2022
"I’ve been trying to imagine what Gina
Peddy could have been thinking when, on
8 October, she informed a group of
Southlake, Texas, elementary school
teachers that, if their classroom
libraries included books about the
Holocaust, students should also be
steered toward books with "opposing
views".
The executive director for curriculum
and instruction for the Carroll
Independent school district, Peddy
later explained that she was simply
helping her staff comply with Texas
House Bill 3979. Signed into law on
1 September by Governor Greg Abbott,
the ruling prohibits educators from
discussing controversial historical,
social or political issues. If these
subjects do arise, HB 3979 mandates
that teachers "explore such issues
from diverse and contending
perspectives without giving deference
to any one perspective".
If teachers are obliged to tell their
classes that there is "another point
of view" about whether the Holocaust
occurred, must American history lessons
now also include books asserting that
the United States was never a slave-
holding nation or that racism ended with
the Emancipation Proclamation? If the
discussion surrounding a novel or story
leads a class to conclude that LGBTQ+
people are entitled to basic human
rights, must the class be asked to
that those rights should be denied to
anyone who differs from the heterosexual
norm?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-
curriculum-schools-hb-3979
Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.
Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The
country knows that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral
-172538135.html>
(video at link)
Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.h
tml>
Anonymous
2024-06-10 03:10:56 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
"Balance" between a homicidal Leftist and a no-enemies-to-the-left
cuckservative is no balance at all.

Get shot.
Governor Swill
2024-06-10 06:54:44 UTC
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Post by Anonymous
Post by Mitchell Holman
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
"Balance" between a homicidal Leftist and a no-enemies-to-the-left
cuckservative is no balance at all.
Get shot.
You just proved his point.

Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
26xh.0717
2024-06-17 04:43:20 UTC
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Post by Anonymous
Post by Governor Swill
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
     --bks
    What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
    Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
"Balance" between a homicidal Leftist and a no-enemies-to-the-left
cuckservative is no balance at all.
ON THE WHOLE, neither the US "left" or "right" are
extremists. However there are always SOME - and it
doesn't take that many.

At present, the whole idea of a sensible center is
treated as heresy. The MSM hates it, they make
their $$$ on flames and blood and conflict.

But, to work, the USA *needs* a large sensible center.
Otherwise it's Stalin or Hitler or some ayatollah or
martial-law general REAL QUICK NOW. The "great experiment"
will have been a FAILURE.

And NOBODY will like the result.

OR where you hoping for more flames instead of
a sensible discussion ?

Blue Lives Matter
2024-06-10 07:40:20 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Mitchell Holman
2024-06-10 13:09:07 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
The conservative idea of free speech:



Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022

Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k





The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018

Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm




Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
Blue Lives Matter
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Bradley K. Sherman
GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
Mitchell Holman
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.

Got it.
CaLaVeRa
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<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
There are no leftard media resources with editors, seriously cornholer?
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
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<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
Got it.
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Mitchell Holman
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
Got it.
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
MSN controlling what is on their network = censorship.

Trump controlling what is on his network = free enterprise!
Blue Lives Matter
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on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
Got it.
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
MSN controlling what is on their network = censorship.
Trump controlling what is on his network = free enterprise!
No, you pathetic moron, neither one is censorship, but it is
censorship when the Government tells MSN what should or shouldn't be
on their network.
Mitchell Holman
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are
attacks
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on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
Got it.
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
MSN controlling what is on their network = censorship.
Trump controlling what is on his network = free enterprise!
No, you pathetic moron, neither one is censorship, but it is
censorship when the Government tells MSN what should or shouldn't be
on their network.
Where is government doing that?
Blue Lives Matter
2024-06-11 13:41:30 UTC
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are
attacks
Post by Blue Lives Matter
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on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
What "we must value opinions
from all sides" leads to.
But ... but isn't the Fairness Doctrine inherently unfair?
Modern Conservative: Someone who can take time out
from complaining how the media is "dominated by liberals"
and "conservatives can't get their message out" to complain
that the giving both sides equal time via the Fairness
Doctrine would stifle their voices.
Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
Got it.
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal
internet
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space.
MSN controlling what is on their network = censorship.
Trump controlling what is on his network = free enterprise!
No, you pathetic moron, neither one is censorship, but it is
censorship when the Government tells MSN what should or shouldn't be
on their network.
Where is government doing that?
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/judge-rules-white-house-pressured-social-networks-to-suppress-free-speech/
Governor Swill
2024-06-12 05:02:32 UTC
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No, you pathetic moron, neither one is censorship, but it is
censorship when the Government tells MSN what should or shouldn't be
on their network.
Where is government doing that?
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/judge-rules-white-house-pressured-social-networks-to-suppress-free-speech/
"Bush backs Pentagon on barring coffin photos"
<https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4807865>

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- Donald Trump in Phoenix, AZ - Thursday, June 6, 2024

Not left, Not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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Mitchell Holman
2024-06-12 18:22:23 UTC
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Post by Blue Lives Matter
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Blue Lives Matter
No, you pathetic moron, neither one is censorship, but it is
censorship when the Government tells MSN what should or shouldn't
be on their network.
Where is government doing that?
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/judge-rules-white-house-pre
ssured-social-networks-to-suppress-free-speech/
"Bush backs Pentagon on barring coffin photos"
<https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna4807865>
What a contrast:




Ban on photos of U.S. troops' coffins lifted
February 27, 2009

The Obama administration said Thursday it
will lift an 18-year ban on coverage of
the return of military members killed in
war by allowing families of the fallen to
decide whether the news media may photograph
the flag-covered caskets.

"We should not presume to make the decision
for the families," Defense Secretary Robert
Gates said. "We should actually let them make
it."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6970535&page=1
Governor Swill
2024-06-12 04:59:20 UTC
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No, you pathetic moron, neither one is censorship, but it is
censorship when the Government tells MSN what should or shouldn't be
on their network.
You're quite wrong. It's only censorship if the government *forces* MSN what to report.
Post by Mitchell Holman
Where is government doing that?
Government and media have worked together for a long time. Media made a point of not
showing FDR in his wheelchair because it was agreed we needed to perceive a strong
President during war times.

Bush forbade them to show returning caskets.

American history is rife with incidents of media doing what government wanted but few, if
any of these amounted to the sort of censorship the right pretends to fear but secretly
wants to put in place.

Swill
--
"I don't like saying the word, "bullshit" in front of these beautiful children so I won't say it. I will not say it."
- Donald Trump in Phoenix, AZ - Thursday, June 6, 2024

Not left, Not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
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Siri Cruise
2024-06-11 08:33:16 UTC
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<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
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Blue Lives Matter
2024-06-11 09:25:26 UTC
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<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
They're perfectly free to control their sites.
Mitchell Holman
2024-06-11 13:09:12 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Blue Lives Matter
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
They're perfectly free to control their sites.
Not according to your hero Trump.



Trump sues Facebook, Twitter and Google,
claiming censorship
July 7, 2021

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-twitter-
google-claiming-bias-2021-07-07/
Blue Lives Matter
2024-06-11 13:47:46 UTC
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Post by Blue Lives Matter
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
They're perfectly free to control their sites.
Not according to your hero Trump.
Trump sues Facebook, Twitter and Google,
claiming censorship
July 7, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-twitter-
google-claiming-bias-2021-07-07/
That was not a free speech case, it was a civil suit, you pathetic
fool.
Josh Rosenbluth
2024-06-11 15:15:27 UTC
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Post by Blue Lives Matter
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Blue Lives Matter
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
They're perfectly free to control their sites.
Not according to your hero Trump.
Trump sues Facebook, Twitter and Google,
claiming censorship
July 7, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-twitter-
google-claiming-bias-2021-07-07/
That was not a free speech case, it was a civil suit, you pathetic
fool.
Civil suits are subject to the First Amendment because they are brought
under statutes passed by the government.

In this lawsuit, Trump claimed *his* First Amendment rights were being
violated by Facebook even though Facebook is not the government. The
only way to make that case is to argue the government coerced Twitter to
censor Trump.

As far as Facebook being able to control their own sites, Texas and
Florida passed laws that forbade Facebook from censoring people based on
their viewpoint. Does this law violate Facebook's First Amendment
rights? The case was heard by SCOTUS in February with a decision
expected by the end of June. Oral arguments suggest Texas and Florida
will lose.
Blue Lives Matter
2024-06-11 17:00:56 UTC
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Post by Blue Lives Matter
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Blue Lives Matter
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 01:33:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Blue Lives Matter
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
They're perfectly free to control their sites.
Not according to your hero Trump.
Trump sues Facebook, Twitter and Google,
claiming censorship
July 7, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-twitter-
google-claiming-bias-2021-07-07/
That was not a free speech case, it was a civil suit, you pathetic
fool.
Civil suits are subject to the First Amendment because they are brought
under statutes passed by the government.
In this lawsuit, Trump claimed *his* First Amendment rights were being
violated by Facebook even though Facebook is not the government. The
only way to make that case is to argue the government coerced Twitter to
censor Trump.
Nonsense claim. Shot down.
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
As far as Facebook being able to control their own sites, Texas and
Florida passed laws that forbade Facebook from censoring people based on
their viewpoint. Does this law violate Facebook's First Amendment
rights? The case was heard by SCOTUS in February with a decision
expected by the end of June. Oral arguments suggest Texas and Florida
will lose.
Most likely.
Josh Rosenbluth
2024-06-11 17:07:20 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
Post by Blue Lives Matter
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Blue Lives Matter
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 01:33:16 -0700, Siri Cruise
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Blue Lives Matter
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
Unless it's Facebook, or Twitter, or youtube, etc.
They're perfectly free to control their sites.
Not according to your hero Trump.
Trump sues Facebook, Twitter and Google,
claiming censorship
July 7, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-twitter-
google-claiming-bias-2021-07-07/
That was not a free speech case, it was a civil suit, you pathetic
fool.
Civil suits are subject to the First Amendment because they are brought
under statutes passed by the government.
In this lawsuit, Trump claimed *his* First Amendment rights were being
violated by Facebook even though Facebook is not the government. The
only way to make that case is to argue the government coerced Twitter to
censor Trump.
Nonsense claim. Shot down.
What nonsense claim, shot down how?
Post by Blue Lives Matter
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
As far as Facebook being able to control their own sites, Texas and
Florida passed laws that forbade Facebook from censoring people based on
their viewpoint. Does this law violate Facebook's First Amendment
rights? The case was heard by SCOTUS in February with a decision
expected by the end of June. Oral arguments suggest Texas and Florida
will lose.
Most likely.
But, Florida and Texas (run by Republicans who think Facebook is too
woke) don't think Facebook should control their own sites. Glad to see
you agree they are wrong.
Governor Swill
2024-06-12 05:07:00 UTC
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Post by Josh Rosenbluth
In this lawsuit, Trump claimed *his* First Amendment rights were being
violated by Facebook even though Facebook is not the government. The
only way to make that case is to argue the government coerced Twitter to
censor Trump.
Nonsense claim. Shot down.
The claim is correct. Facebook, as a private, non government entity, is not required to
adhere to the First Amendment. That is true. Therefore, the only way to make a
censorship charge stick is to prove the government forced Facebook into said behavior.
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
What nonsense claim, shot down how?
Post by Blue Lives Matter
Post by Josh Rosenbluth
As far as Facebook being able to control their own sites, Texas and
Florida passed laws that forbade Facebook from censoring people based on
their viewpoint. Does this law violate Facebook's First Amendment
rights? The case was heard by SCOTUS in February with a decision
expected by the end of June. Oral arguments suggest Texas and Florida
will lose.
Most likely.
But, Florida and Texas (run by Republicans who think Facebook is too
woke) don't think Facebook should control their own sites. Glad to see
you agree they are wrong.
There is common ground; Trump's claim is likely invalid and lost.

Josh: It doesn't help to be insulting when agreeing on something.

Swill
--
"I don't like saying the word, "bullshit" in front of these beautiful children so I won't say it. I will not say it."
- Donald Trump in Phoenix, AZ - Thursday, June 6, 2024

Not left, Not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
Siri Cruise
2024-06-12 05:22:24 UTC
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In this lawsuit, Trump claimed *his* First Amendment rights were
being violated by Facebook even though Facebook is not the
government. The only way to make that case is to argue the
government coerced Twitter to censor Trump.
As far as Facebook being able to control their own sites, Texas
and Florida passed laws that forbade Facebook from censoring
people based on their viewpoint. Does this law violate Facebook's
First Amendment rights? The case was heard by SCOTUS in February
with a decision expected by the end of June. Oral arguments
suggest Texas and Florida will lose.
California has the Pruneyard decision where people have limitted
free speech on private property without the owner's permission.
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Josh Rosenbluth
2024-06-12 15:37:35 UTC
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In this lawsuit, Trump claimed *his* First Amendment rights were being
violated by Facebook even though Facebook is not the government. The
only way to make that case is to argue the government coerced Twitter
to censor Trump.
As far as Facebook being able to control their own sites, Texas and
Florida passed laws that forbade Facebook from censoring people based
on their viewpoint. Does this law violate Facebook's First Amendment
rights? The case was heard by SCOTUS in February with a decision
expected by the end of June. Oral arguments suggest Texas and Florida
will lose.
California has the Pruneyard decision where people have limitted free
speech on private property without the owner's permission.
The Pruneyard decision came to the opposite conclusion that you claimed.
Students were protesting on Pruneyard's property and SCOTUS held that
Pruneyard did *not* (as owners) have a First Amendment right to kick the
students out.

If Facebook were comparable to Pruneyard, Florida and Texas will win.
But as I said, from oral arguments it appears Florida and Texas will lose.
Gronk
2024-06-17 04:18:28 UTC
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Modern Liberal: Someone who believes free speech is unfair.
Roger Stone says he was censored on
Trump's Truth Social app
Apr 3, 2022
Roger Stone, a long-time ally of former
President Donald Trump, complained Saturday
night about censored content on Trump's own
Truth Social app after being slapped with
a content warning label following one of
his posts.
https://tinyurl.com/5yk75e8k
The Trump administration scrubs climate change
info from websites.
July 17, 2018
Reports of climate science being scrubbed
from U.S. government websites arrived early
in President Donald Trump’s tenure. And the
hits keep coming. From the Environmental
Protection Agency, to the Energy Department,
to the State Department and beyond, references
to climate change, greenhouse gases and clean
energy keep disappearing.
https://tinyurl.com/4fum4fnm
Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
So conservatives demand free speech
but don't allow it themselves.
Got it.
<EYEYOLL> Only a half-witted, far left freak like you would suggest
that a person should not control what's put on their personal internet
space.
<EYEROLL> "personal internet space"? Only #FelonDon can
post to Truth Social???
Siri Cruise
2024-06-11 08:31:33 UTC
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Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
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http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
What about free speech?
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Blue Lives Matter
2024-06-11 09:23:56 UTC
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Trump’s Truth Social Is Banning
Users Who Post About Jan. 6 Hearings
Jan 2022
http://tinyurl.com/yeyp69ep
<LOL> Do you really have a problem with Trump cencoring his own
accounts?
What about free speech?
What about it, Dummy?
Governor Swill
2024-06-09 18:54:19 UTC
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GOP Megagodilla Erick Erickson says attacks on Nazis are attacks
on Trump!
<https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1798745528039350279>
You can't make this shit up.
--bks
It's still more proof that American neo Nazis are behind Trump's candidacy.

Swill
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We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

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Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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